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What to breed my male to

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  • 09-22-2014, 09:34 PM
    Sterling30
    What to breed my male to
    I have a male Mojave harlequin desert ball I wanted to breed him but not sure what to breed him with, I'm new to ball python breeding. This will be my first time breeding balls, I currently breed bearded dragons.
    Thanks for the input.
    I can't put a pic of him up for some reason but if you look at my previous posts I have a pic of him
  • 09-22-2014, 09:50 PM
    frostysBP
    Re: What to breed my male to
    You could go for some blue eyed lucys By getting another mojave or butter
  • 09-23-2014, 12:10 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: What to breed my male to
    I would avoid making Lucy's. Don't want to end up with a bunch of female white snakes that could have Desert hidden in them.


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  • 09-23-2014, 06:29 AM
    ARBallMorphs
    Re: What to breed my male to
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    I would avoid making Lucy's. Don't want to end up with a bunch of female white snakes that could have Desert hidden in them.


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    this^^

    i would go with leopard or spider/bumblebee
  • 09-23-2014, 07:09 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Depends what your end goal is and how much you want to spend?
    Short term get a bee.
    Long term get a clown.
  • 09-23-2014, 10:29 AM
    frostysBP
    Re: What to breed my male to
    Thats a risk you will take... if you want a bel from what you have. Even if it dose turn out to be a hidden desert you will have some great pet snakes. Just tell anyone you sell one to about the desert gene.
  • 09-23-2014, 11:09 AM
    Sterling30
    I'm looking for short term breeding not long term. I'll be breeding for awhile but I'd rather just make some nice looking pets for people.
  • 09-23-2014, 07:15 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Re: What to breed my male to
    No matter what you breed it to, you'll have the possibility of hatching out female deserts that cannot be bred.

    Take a look at the World of Ball Pythons and use their genetic calculator to fool around with other morphs to see end results.


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  • 09-23-2014, 07:51 PM
    ARBallMorphs
    yeah he has the possibility of making female deserts, that isnt the problem, the problem is when you make an BEL you can't see if there is desert in her and that is the problem.
  • 09-24-2014, 04:07 PM
    I-KandyReptiles
    Re: What to breed my male to
    Yeah, I get that. I'm just pointing out that any females with desert won't be breed able.

    Would like to know what he means by short term breeding as well.


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  • 09-27-2014, 12:10 PM
    Sterling30
    Re: What to breed my male to
    Some one asked me if I was looking breed long term, I guess meaning put a clown to him, but im looking short term getting a bee.

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  • 09-27-2014, 08:05 PM
    Productmur
    Re: What to breed my male to
    They said it was long term because clown is recessive. Therefore, you would need to get a visual clown female, breed her to your male, hope you hit a Mojave harlequin desert het clown male (about a 12.5% chance ; the whole clutch would be 100% het clown so at least there's that), raise him, then breed him back to his clown mom and have a 6.25% chance at hitting the quad gene; half that, assuming you want it to breed, because it would have to be male.

    OR you could breed a bumblebee and add pastel and spider to the mix without having to breed back generations. You'd have 32 different resulting offspring, including a five-year that I do not believe has been done before. Not bad.

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  • 09-27-2014, 08:20 PM
    Sterling30
    Re: What to breed my male to
    Thank you so much for the detail on that, this is always something ive wanted to do. Id probably want to breed him with something not to say easier but since I honestly dont know about the differ morphs id prob end up giving away the one I was supposed to keep on accident.

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  • 09-27-2014, 09:48 PM
    Productmur
    Re: What to breed my male to
    No problem. Browse around world of ball pythons for a while, if you haven't. There are plenty of gorgeous potential morphs to pair with your boy to make gorgeous offspring, and the genetics wizard on there can help with odds of different offspring.

    I saw a pic of him in another thread--he's quite the looker; that back stripe is wicked! I personally vote cinnamon something--maybe cinnamon enchi? The cinnamon enchi desert (cinnamon tiger) is epic looking. Cinnamon Mojave (savannah) is one of my favorite morphs. But that's my personal preferences, and really you should choose based on your own likes. :3

    Not sure if it was mentioned, but just in case it wasn't and you didn't know, do NOT hold back any female offspring with desert in them with the intent to breed her! The desert ball so far has not been able to successfully reproduce as a female, and adding genes hasn't changed that fact. They seem to have problems with their oviduct , although, I do not believe any cause has been proven definitively as of yet. Just that the females either slug out or actually die from trying to pass eggs.

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  • 09-28-2014, 12:36 PM
    Sterling30
    Thanks so much man. My friend breeds and he said savannah also. They do look pretty cool
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