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  • 09-09-2014, 03:30 PM
    MrBrute
    Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    I'm getting 2 new bp! What size enclosure should I get? It will have a divider in there.

    I got my last from here and it was great! What one do you suggest?

    http://www.dragons4you.net/Cages.html
  • 09-09-2014, 03:36 PM
    brock lesser
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Depends on the size of the animals.
  • 09-09-2014, 04:01 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brock lesser View Post
    Depends on the size of the animals.

    could you give me a size cage? I assume they all grow close in size.
  • 09-09-2014, 04:26 PM
    Eric Alan
    Of the ones you've listed, the largest one is the minimum I'd even consider for two adult ball pythons. Even then, I don't feel it would be enough space for an adult female ball when divided in half.

    The Animal Plastics T8s, that many find to work well for adult BPs, are 48x24x12. They are greater than 100 square inches larger per snake (once divided in half) than the largest one offered in your link.

    For reference:
    • Vision 70 Tub = 595 square inches (adult female tub)
    • Animal Plastics T8 = 576 square inches (divided in half)
    • Dragons4You Largest Size = 470 squre inches (divided in half)
    • Vision 28 Tub = 368 square inches (adult male tub)

    Hope this helps!
  • 09-09-2014, 05:34 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    Of the ones you've listed, the largest one is the minimum I'd even consider for two adult ball pythons. Even then, I don't feel it would be enough space for an adult female ball when divided in half.

    The Animal Plastics T8s, that many find to work well for adult BPs, are 48x24x12. They are greater than 100 square inches larger per snake (once divided in half) than the largest one offered in your link.

    For reference:
    • Vision 70 Tub = 595 square inches (adult female tub)
    • Animal Plastics T8 = 576 square inches (divided in half)
    • Dragons4You Largest Size = 470 squre inches (divided in half)
    • Vision 28 Tub = 368 square inches (adult male tub)

    Hope this helps!

    i'm getting young ones, so they can grow inside it until adult..I know about the hides and all that stuff..i just didnt want to buy 2 enclosures! thanks for the info :)
  • 09-09-2014, 05:39 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    Of the ones you've listed, the largest one is the minimum I'd even consider for two adult ball pythons. Even then, I don't feel it would be enough space for an adult female ball when divided in half.

    The Animal Plastics T8s, that many find to work well for adult BPs, are 48x24x12. They are greater than 100 square inches larger per snake (once divided in half) than the largest one offered in your link.

    For reference:
    • Vision 70 Tub = 595 square inches (adult female tub)
    • Animal Plastics T8 = 576 square inches (divided in half)
    • Dragons4You Largest Size = 470 squre inches (divided in half)
    • Vision 28 Tub = 368 square inches (adult male tub)

    Hope this helps!

    yeah i've been dealing with dragons and they are great. so either one of the 47s would work just fine?
  • 09-09-2014, 05:44 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    yeah i've been dealing with dragons and they are great. so either one of the 47s would work just fine?

    Yes. The height would be ultimately up to you. The BPs don't necessarily need to take full advantage of the height, but having the height may make it easier for you to clean/etc inside their enclosures.
  • 09-09-2014, 05:45 PM
    ElliotNess
    Maybe if you dont want to get appropriate sized enclosures than you should get 1 snake. You said "they can grow inside until adult". What are you going to do then? Buy another cage? Maybe you should buy 1 snake and 1 cage now then later buy #2. That way the snakes arent forced to be in a small space if you cannot afford a larger cage later.
  • 09-09-2014, 05:53 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ElliotNess View Post
    Maybe if you dont want to get appropriate sized enclosures than you should get 1 snake. You said "they can grow inside until adult". What are you going to do then? Buy another cage? Maybe you should buy 1 snake and 1 cage now then later buy #2. That way the snakes arent forced to be in a small space if you cannot afford a larger cage later.

    so where is your answer to my question?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    Yes. The height would be ultimately up to you. The BPs don't necessarily need to take full advantage of the height, but having the height may make it easier for you to clean/etc inside their enclosures.

    thanks kind sir!
  • 09-09-2014, 06:01 PM
    BumbleB
    Animal plastics t8 is a great enclosure I have one and I love it. If you are getting younger ball pythons you will just have to throw in some extra hides and im sure you wont have a problem.
  • 09-09-2014, 06:05 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BumbleB View Post
    Animal plastics t8 is a great enclosure I have one and I love it. If you are getting younger ball pythons you will just have to throw in some extra hides and im sure you wont have a problem.

    really? how old is yours?
  • 09-09-2014, 06:25 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    really? how old is yours?

    I've also got 2 AP T8s (divided).

    I've kept anything from a 57 gram hatchling to a 2200 gram adult in them. I bought them when I only had 4 BPs (well, before I had 4 BPs and set them up in preparation for them). Now that I have quite a bit more than 4, I'm slowly moving them all to racks. The T8s served me well for the last year and a half or so - they're just not very space friendly when you have a growing collection. :)
  • 09-09-2014, 06:26 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    I've also got 2 AP T8s (divided).

    I've kept anything from a 57 gram hatchling to a 2200 gram adult in them. I bought them when I only had 4 BPs (well, before I had 4 BPs and set them up in preparation for them). Now that I have quite a bit more than 4, I'm slowly moving them all to racks. The T8s served me well for the last year and a half or so - they're just not very space friendly when you have a growing collection. :)

    really? do you have pics of your set up and snakes?
  • 09-09-2014, 06:38 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    really? do you have pics of your set up and snakes?

    The T8s:
    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...-SnakeRoom.jpg

    The racks:
    http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...808-QTRoom.jpg
  • 09-09-2014, 06:51 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    great pics!!!
  • 09-09-2014, 07:04 PM
    Eric Alan
    Oops - missed that you asked for pics of the snakes too.

    Here's my most recent pictures: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lection-Update
  • 09-09-2014, 08:35 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    Oops - missed that you asked for pics of the snakes too.

    Here's my most recent pictures: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lection-Update

    Amazing! You've invested money huh? LOL thanks
  • 09-09-2014, 09:02 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    Amazing! You've invested money huh? LOL thanks

    Not nearly as much as many members on this site, I promise you.
  • 09-09-2014, 10:01 PM
    zachbinger
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    The 47x24x12 perfect divided
  • 09-09-2014, 11:51 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zachbinger View Post
    The 47x24x12 perfect divided

    thanks!!!!!!
  • 09-10-2014, 12:39 AM
    ashleymarie
    Just so you know, if you put two snakes in the same enclosure, they could be fine together... however I have heard of people who wake up to one snake missing and the other looking like it just ate something snake-shaped... So to be honest, I think you should avoid that issue all together and just purchase two cages...
  • 09-10-2014, 12:42 AM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Cool LOL thanks!
  • 09-11-2014, 03:36 AM
    Mr. Misha
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleymarie View Post
    Just so you know, if you put two snakes in the same enclosure, they could be fine together... however I have heard of people who wake up to one snake missing and the other looking like it just ate something snake-shaped... So to be honest, I think you should avoid that issue all together and just purchase two cages...

    The OP said he'll put a divider into the enclosure so he can split one terrarium for two snakes.

    OP, not to beat a dead horse but Animal Plastics make great enclosures and have wonderful customer service. I have their T8 and T12 enclosure. If BPs given height they do use it quite frequently.

    Here's my setup:
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...3c2b6f1d48.jpg

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
  • 09-11-2014, 10:20 AM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    that is nice! do you also use a herpstat?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    The OP said he'll put a divider into the enclosure so he can split one terrarium for two snakes.

    OP, not to beat a dead horse but Animal Plastics make great enclosures and have wonderful customer service. I have their T8 and T12 enclosure. If BPs given height they do use it quite frequently.

    Here's my setup:
    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...3c2b6f1d48.jpg

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

  • 09-11-2014, 05:32 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    that is nice! do you also use a herpstat?

    Yes sir. I use a Herpstat 4 and a Herpstat 2 controlling everything.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
  • 09-11-2014, 07:01 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    No doubt
  • 09-11-2014, 07:11 PM
    JimMills
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    For everyone using the animal plastic t8's for housing, do you use heat tape as well as another heat source such as a RHP? Or is the room constantly warm enough to make additional heating unnecessary? Thanks, sorry for the random somewhat off topic interjection.
  • 09-11-2014, 08:05 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Buying 2 bp soon and need advice!
    Thread jacker! LOL good question
  • 09-12-2014, 12:39 PM
    MrBrute
    someone just told me 36" x 21" x 14"H would be fine for 1
  • 09-14-2014, 08:03 PM
    MrBrute
    hello family?
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