Is hook training completely necessary

I have a 4foot boa loves to be held waits to get outta tank, Is it completely necessary to hook train her?, am I able to eventually take her out with out using a hook?

Not at all.

I have never used a hook with my boa. If I wanted to I could literally squish his cheeks in his enclosure and he would just stare at me. My boa is very tame though - if he was very aggressive a hook may be a good idea.

Yeah she is very docile, no aggression at all.. I didn't think I need to hook train her. Thank you always good to hear second opinions!

Yeah no need to if she's very docile. It's more for venomous or pretty aggressive snakes.

It's also used for snakes with a strong food response. Some boas (and keepers) would benefit from it, others don't need it.

We don't hook but know people who do, it's a comfort and safety thing for you and the animal.
basically whatever works for you and the snake is fine, you may only need to use it when their being
pissy so it's a good idea to have the hook close just in case.

I've just started hook training my 2 year old male. He was super aggressive before, but now is very agreeable to handling. I think it was the best thing I could have done. But if your girl is docile, there doesn't seem to be a need. Always good to have one on hand, though.

Okay ty so much guys!.. She loves being held when I put her back in her tank. She will come up right to the tank. Never bitten or strikes at me.. When I do feed her she won't strike n coil, I have to cover her maybe it's a female thing.. Not being watched

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This her wrapped around my arm n her head on my shoulder just woke up from a nap and she doesn't leave, just looks at me lol

Are you saying that you took a nap with her on you? If so I would not advise that at all. Snakes will escape, that's what they do

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The times I accidently fell asleep w her out she never left or moved... Maybe some snakes do.. My boa never left. I even keep her out when I'm doing things around the house never tried to escape, always watching, not once has she tried

I use a hook and I'll give an instance that might show you how useful it can be... Both of my boas are very laid back and not aggressive, except at feeding time. When they are in feeding mode, they will strike at the side of the tub / top of the tub when they see motion, even from me, and even with no food present (so basically at night). Normally I do not handle them at night so it's no problem because I avoid it.

However, last night when doing my evening checks, I noticed that my youngest boa had defecated in his cage and it needed to be cleaned. Sure enough, he was in food mode, watching me move around the cage and when my hand went near the latch, he struck. I carefully removed the top of the tub, used the hook and rubbed his neck for apx. 2 seconds and he instantly went out of food mode, went into his hide, and then I was able to pick him up without any striking, put him in a holding container, and clean his cage.

In this situation, the hook kept me from possibly getting bitten and made things less stressful on the boa.

I think sometimes people misconstrue hook training as picking the snake up with the hook.. It is simply used to rub / pet the snake when you first open the cage to wake them up and let them know that they will be handled.. Sort of a method to let them know that you aren't a threat and that you aren't feeding them. I believe that I could care for my snakes without the hook, but I feel that it's a safeguard and makes situations like the one above easier.

Of course, it is your choice and it isn't necessary... Do whatever works for you and the snake. That said, your boa looks great in the pic, but I agree with the other poster that napping with your snake might be a bad idea (people have had them slither off and get coiled in the washing machine, etc. and lost for months).

I would start hook training. My biggest girl (a 2011 that is about 6.5 feet and 8lbs) started getting extremely cage aggressive this past winter. It was to the point that I was almost considering rehoming her because I didn't know how to handle her! After chatting with a few other boa keepers, I decided to give hook training a shot. Even though I still don't trust Pandora, she is a LOT more manageable now! I have even started hook training all of my younger boas and even a few adult balls that instantly go into feeding mode when I open the tubs!

Yes, it is an extra step in the routine, but it is a lot safer and less stressful on both you and your boa.

My female boa, Figment, is hook trained. For her sake as well as mine. She is a wonderfully sweet boa - out of the cage. Inside, she is frequently in feeding mode. I tap her head with the hook to let her know she isn't getting fed, and reach in and pull her out. Without this step, she would almost certainly bite me. She is now three years old and over five feet. I definitely don't want her to bite me if I can avoid it, and it's good for her too. I started hook training her when she was still small though, just to make it easier as an adult.

Is hook training necessary? I would say it depends on the snake. I have handled boas that are fine just being pulled out of the cage, but Figment is not one of those boas. Once out, she is amazing. Hook training just makes the process of getting her out easier less stressful for both of us.

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Originally Posted by Marissa@MKmorphs

I would start hook training. My biggest girl (a 2011 that is about 6.5 feet and 8lbs) started getting extremely cage aggressive this past winter. It was to the point that I was almost considering rehoming her because I didn't know how to handle her! After chatting with a few other boa keepers, I decided to give hook training a shot. Even though I still don't trust Pandora, she is a LOT more manageable now! I have even started hook training all of my younger boas and even a few adult balls that instantly go into feeding mode when I open the tubs!

Yes, it is an extra step in the routine, but it is a lot safer and less stressful on both you and your boa.

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Not to hijack the thread, but that's why some people use separate feeding tanks/cages. Now back to the subject. People pick up rattlesnakes and relics bare handed, doesn't mean I would. Kept Boas for 15+ years before my accident. Some needed the assistance of a hook some didn't. Got balls now, still keep a small hook around just in case. ;) And I not sure snakes can be trained, maybe more conditioned. Just my opinion, and everybody knows what an opinion is worth :P

At feeding time she shows no sign of aggressiveness, I feed her in a separate container, she doesn't even strike at the thawed rat.. She WI only eat when I close the lid and leave the room

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Originally Posted by MrSnake21

At feeding time she shows no sign of aggressiveness, I feed her in a separate container, she doesn't even strike at the thawed rat.. She WI only eat when I close the lid and leave the room

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Must be nice. My boas are all on a 2-3 week feeding schedule while my BP's in the same room get fed weekly. Several of the boas will strike the glass at any sign of movement if I'm thawing feeders.

Mine never striked the glass or nothing... I only feed her thawed!

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Doesn't wanna go in her tank yet lol.. It's 10min to midnight

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Originally Posted by bcr229

Must be nice. My boas are all on a 2-3 week feeding schedule while my BP's in the same room get fed weekly. Several of the boas will strike the glass at any sign of movement if I'm thawing feeders.

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I thought I was the only one!