Help with an ID, please :)

What would everyone say this is? I unexpectedly came into possession of this gorgeous little thing tonight. I'm thinking it's a Dumerils? Also, sex? I've read you can sex boas by their tails? If that's the case, I'm going to say female?

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Yes its a Dum.

Not sure on the sex.

Thought so.
I wouldn't normally take on a snake with the potential to get as big as a Dum but everything I've read says they grow pretty slowly, so I'll have time to set up a proper enclosure for an adult. I did pop it and I'm fairly certain it's a female. I also don't see spurs. Whatever the gender, I love how docile it is! :O

Yes, it's a Dumerils. No, you can't tell sex just by looking at the tail. Very nice snake though! And Dums are known for their docile nature. They can get fairly large, but they are good beginner boas so you shouldn't have any issues with her (if she proves to be female). Enjoy her and congrats! :gj:

Yep it's a Dumeril, and a nice one :gj:

Sexing the snake is very simple. There is no probing or popping. Just turn the snake over and look near the tail area. If it is a male there are some large anal spurs and if not the snake is a female. Hope that helps :gj:

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Originally Posted by albinos_rule

Sexing the snake is very simple. There is no probing or popping. Just turn the snake over and look near the tail area. If it is a male there are some large anal spurs and if not the snake is a female. Hope that helps :gj:

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This is actually a myth. Both males and females can develop large spurs.

Well I don't see kingsnake.com posting false information :rolleyes:

http://www.kingsnake.com/candoia/gem.html

I prefer to research more than one source ;)

From what I know, boa males tend to have bigger spurs, but it is not a guarantee. If you really want a properly sexed animal, popping and probing are by far the most accurate when done correctly. I'm not saying I know everything about dumerils boas as I've never had one, but it is the general rule is not to trust spurs alone for most species.


Anyways, very pretty dumeril OP!

Yeah. I know how to pop relatively well. I did it once on "her" and I'm fairly certain I got it right. I just didn't wanna bug her too much. She's only about 300g so it wasn't too difficult but she was squirmy.

The most unbelievable thing happened when I got her home last night. I had her in my hands as I was getting her QT set up and she was pushing against my hand and arm so hard. I was concerned something was wrong with her. Then I looked at her nose and thought something was wrong.

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Turns out......








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She shed entirely in my hands with a little help from me. It was the coolest thing ever. I hadn't even put her in her tub yet.

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Originally Posted by bad-one

I prefer to research more than one source ;)

From what I know, boa males tend to have bigger spurs, but it is not a guarantee. If you really want a properly sexed animal, popping and probing are by far the most accurate when done correctly. I'm not saying I know everything about dumerils boas as I've never had one, but it is the general rule is not to trust spurs alone for most species.


Anyways, very pretty dumeril OP!

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I did see the same info on various websites, but I am not gonna post links to them all, google it for yourself...hehehehehe:P:P

That's awesome she shed like that. Snakes always look so amazing after a shed. I know my Ghost girl practically glows in the dark after a shed. Now I'm curious about this sexing business. Some information seems Dumeril specific followed by information related to snakes in general disregarding the Dumeril. I know in general every one agrees probing is the best but it would be cool to work with them enough to where you would become comfortable gauging from the spurs alone.

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That's awesome she shed like that. Snakes always look so amazing after a shed. I know my Ghost girl practically glows in the dark after a shed. Now I'm curious about this sexing business. Some information seems Dumeril specific followed by information related to snakes in general disregarding the Dumeril. I know in general every one agrees probing is the best but it would be cool to work with them enough to where you would become comfortable gauging from the spurs alone.

I got so so excited when I saw that she had started her shed. Felt like it was a "meant to be" partnership between her and I. Love her! Just have to come up with a good name!

Absolutely beautiful snake

Thank youuuu! I'll get some better quality ones after she settles in. Those were just taken with my phone.

Np anytime!!

I tell ya snakes boas in general definitely know there owners, when ever I have mine out for a while, I put her back in tank she dead stares at me, I believe you found some type of relationship with it to shed in your hand!

I've never really felt much of an an actual connection with any of my BPs. I love them all and I'm so excited about what I can produce. It's a definite passion. With this girl, though...I dunno. I just adore her :)

Yeah my boa Lucy, is very unique we have some connection everyone says.. They see it. I fell asleep w her on accident n she stayed around my neck w her head down on my shoulder, when I woke up she put her head right next to my mouth on the side n looked up lol

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Well I don't see kingsnake.com posting false information :rolleyes:

http://www.kingsnake.com/candoia/gem.html

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Dumerlis and Candoia are not even close to the same thing...about the only things they have in common are that they're both snakes and in the boa family xD
(okay, maybe a touch more than that, but you get what I'm saying ;P)

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Painting!, she doesn't leave my side ever she thinks she is gonna miss out on something very important [emoji12]

Hahaha. I love it. Such curiosity

Hahha yeah that's her!!

I love that she's holding onto your shirt lol. I WONT GO BACK! YOU CANT TAKE ME!

Lolol! Try having her wrapped around your leg like she is going for a ride.. Walking n she just chills lol... It's something I have w her