Should I get a ball or carpet? Advice for noob.

I have wanted a python for a long time, and I think I am ready to get one. I would like to be able to handle my snake a couple times a week, and would appreciate a pretty docile and mellow snake that would relax on my arm or around my neck. I think a ball would be great for this. However, I think it would be really neat to have a better display snake that uses perches and is more active than a ball, which makes me want a carpet. I know carpets are supposedly nippy as babies and tame down with handling. I would like to stay around 5', so I have looked at IJ's and jungles. What would yall suggest - ball, IJ, jungle, or something else? I guess I am concerned about getting a carpet that gets too big or is not mellow and relaxed when being handled. I know balls can be finicky eaters, and read that carpets are prone to some health issues. Maybe, some of what I have said is wrong, hoping yall can give some advice. Thanks.

Get one of each :gj:

Both are great captives. Both calm down with relative ease - exceptions can always be found. Carpet pythons get their "nippy" reputation mostly because they are pretty quick snakes. Many of the speedier serpents will try to flee when frightened and if that doesn't immediately work they often take a swing or two at the perceived threat. Ball pythons are not fast, they typically do their ball up routine when feeling threatened and only seldom put on the boxing gloves.

Neither are really prone to health issues; when kept right both are darn near bullet proof. Balls will go on feeding strikes, it's just a natural part of the species and something that stresses the keeper more than the snake. Carpet pythons will not live long lives if you overfeed them - that's their achilles heel. If you get a carpet python feed more moderately to maintain good muscle tone and you should be fine.

I dont think you can go wrong with either.

I think the best thing to do would be to find someone in your area with adult carpets who will let you handle one. They arent hard to handle, but their combination of length, speed, and strength could be a little overwhelming for someone brand new to pythons.

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I think most carpets get over 5 feet when adults (but they stay relatively lean). Have you considered a smaller python like a children's or spotted?

I don't own a carpet yet but they're on my list... I would say that if you have no snake experience, you may want to go with a ball python first. The baby carpets I handled (when considering to buy) were very fast and nippy... and the nippiness can intimidate you if you don't have snake experience. That said, if you do a lot of research on them and can find a local breeder that can show you the proper way of handling a baby carpet to minimize nipping and stress on the snake, you should be ok.

If you primarily want a snake to handle, a ball is a good choice. Both of mine are pretty mellow and slow moving. They have also showed zero aggression. A good point that someone else said on another post on the forum was that when handling a BP you can usually relax and do other things. When handling a carpet, you have to devote all your attention and both hands to it.. they are quick and constantly moving, so consider what kind of snake handling experience you want to have. ;)

I would recommend a boa... I have two and they are hands down the most fun to handle and calmest of my snakes... But most boas get over 5 feet, with only a few localities staying smaller than that (terrahumara, some smaller hog islands, etc.).

You cant use baby as a reason for anything, as Mostly all "baby" snakes are very skiddish and nippy most hatchlings will slap you with there face alot! Unless im quick enough stop (9/10 im not) i get a lil bite, its really nothing to worry about.... Best best is get a well start of either species (few months old) theyll be much easier to handle.

Get a hognose! They're cute!:D

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Originally Posted by artgecko

I think most carpets get over 5 feet when adults (but they stay relatively lean). Have you considered a smaller python like a children's or spotted?

I don't own a carpet yet but they're on my list... I would say that if you have no snake experience, you may want to go with a ball python first. The baby carpets I handled (when considering to buy) were very fast and nippy... and the nippiness can intimidate you if you don't have snake experience. That said, if you do a lot of research on them and can find a local breeder that can show you the proper way of handling a baby carpet to minimize nipping and stress on the snake, you should be ok.

If you primarily want a snake to handle, a ball is a good choice. Both of mine are pretty mellow and slow moving. They have also showed zero aggression. A good point that someone else said on another post on the forum was that when handling a BP you can usually relax and do other things. When handling a carpet, you have to devote all your attention and both hands to it.. they are quick and constantly moving, so consider what kind of snake handling experience you want to have. ;)

I would recommend a boa... I have two and they are hands down the most fun to handle and calmest of my snakes... But most boas get over 5 feet, with only a few localities staying smaller than that (terrahumara, some smaller hog islands, etc.).

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Good point. I know balls aren't really display snakes, but I would probably enjoy a snake that lounges more than constantly moving when I am handling it. Would a hog island be a good first snake?

Well, I can't speak for carpets...

But my ball python is superbly mellow, especially compared to my BTS and corn snake. Perhaps also atypical, because he is the best display snake! Hides all day, then perches right at the front of the glass for most of the evening, pretty much every night. Just watches the world go by. Sits on logs and branches.

I would think carpets would be much quicker than ball pythons, but each personality is different too. Keep in mind your space, the snake's environment, and budget as well. Hopefully that will help narrow some choices! :)

All the best.

Carpet all the way. jungle or darwin but I'm biased

I have both jungles.are.awesome mine was a rescue she is very sweet in 2 years of having her i.hot bit 1 time and that was because i scared her but she justchills around my neck and body she is 6 ft long i have 6 ball pythons also but my jungle is my baby.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/28/asyhedes.jpgheres me with her

Ball pythons are awesome if you dont have any size restrictions get a jungle

Those all awesome want a true display snake. Say high to nice GTP! get as baby handle to get temperament up! And you have the most gorgeous snake you could ask for.

I really cant wait till we get a green tree python

I thought GTP's weren't very handleable

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Get one of each :gj:

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Geez, I wish someone had given me this advice. I have a couple dozen of each! LOL

Lol i really want a green tree thats gonna be my next huge purchase

I've experienced both! And boas.
Ball pythons are definitely great for starting out. They help you get used to handling snakes while being slower, docile, and small.
Carpets and boas are good for second snakes. Carpets because they are very fast and can be difficult to handle when they get their mind set on escaping, but they are VERY cool and do make great display snakes. Boas because they tend to be very dense bodied snakes, so they can be more difficult to manipulate (unless you get the smaller boas that only get around 3ft). Sometimes boas can be a little more aggressive when they're hungry, whereas ball pythons will usually only strike if they smell food.
Either way, all three make great pets, but ball pythons are definitely the easiest as far as husbandry and stress (carpets are a little more prone to RI from temperature fluctuations, especially IJ's).
So in the end it really comes down to what you think you're prepared to handle. As somebody else recommended, see if you can visit others with adult versions of each and see what you find the most easy to deal with.

All snakes will Tollerate handling when you teach them from a young age. Iv seen many puppy dog tame GTP/ETB's all depends on what you are capable of!