What do you guys think of the "whitewash" ball

Just wondering what you guys think of this new paradoxish looking recessive morph I read about in Bush league breeders club. It was proved recessive this season. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...059c91fb8d.jpg

They have albino/snow whitewashes and axanthic snow whitewashes I do believe.

can you link? very interesting

Anything with patterning like that is stunning, to almost anyone, love it or hate it!
i love it and I think that snakes marked like that probably catch the eye of people outside the snake trade! they catch my eye! Wow!
A proven recessive like that would be great stuff!

Theres some killer albino paradox animals I was just looking at...

http://www.ectotherms.net/collection.html

Its a great site!

If that were my snake I would name it Oreo :rofl::rofl::rofl:

He looks great. I would love to work with that morp.

Saw it on FB last week. Love it!

It's from Nuyten reptiles somewhere in Europe. They have albino/snow/whitewashes and axanthic whitewashes

Nuyten reptiles is from Holland,

he has got some cool morphs.

he is one if the bp breeders i expact to see some cool bp's from on the snakeday show in Holland october 12th

This could be up their with piebald given the unique contrast and the unpredictability. Im in :)

I'm curious as to whether they can isolate the whitewash as they accidentally discovered it in a albino x snow breeding. They weren't even looking for it.

So crazy... Havent found a listing but heard they're selling for 10K+

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...66c738677fd00c
His fb page: https://www.facebook.com/piet.nuyten?fref=photo

I decided to go for broke and get a pair....they come next month! So excited!

Gorgeous!!! I neeeeeed dis!

They're visual lows but like piebalds; lows can throw highs, mids and lows.

John

I think it's absolutely stunning.

I'll be sharing my pics the second I get them over from Europe. Supposed to ship within a month.

John

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I'll be sharing my pics the second I get them over from Europe. Supposed to ship within a month.

John

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I can't wait to see them!


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Wow! I like it very much! :)

Subscribed. I can't wait to see what you ordered.

I have the breeder pics of them. They barely show expression but they can make highs so that's what brought me in.http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...a2641c9fff.jpg1.0 Axanthic albino/whitewash
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...53cbded183.jpg0.1 Wildtype snow/whitewash.

John

They should be shipping soon....trying to align flights so they go through the right ports. Hopefully within 2 weeks!

John

hey i do not really fully understand the naming,

with the male you say, Axanthic Albino/Whitewash, but i see no albino in there?
same goes for the female, Wildtype snow/whitewash, isnt snow a combo of axanthic and albino?

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hey i do not really fully understand the naming,

with the male you say, Axanthic Albino/Whitewash, but i see no albino in there?
same goes for the female, Wildtype snow/whitewash, isnt snow a combo of axanthic and albino?

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Yeah, the whitewash comes in a triple ressessive. Axanthic, albino, whitewash. It mixes the genes up and is essentially a genetic paradox. The male is axanthic and the whitewash brings out albino paradoxism. It's a low visual so it would be like a really low pied...basically little more then a ringer pied. The female is a wildtype; the white spots are the whitewash gene bringing out the snow.

John

So yes, snow is a double recessive but with the added whitewash gene that expresses snow in a paradox type display. Like pieds they can show very little expression to very high expression. Mine are lows. Also like pieds lows make highs and vice versa. On the axanthic male the albino/ww is just a couple little yellow spots.

John

super exciting project!!!! i will put it aside sunset as the top of the top morph!!!!

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super exciting project!!!! i will put it aside sunset as the top of the top morph!!!!

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Thanks! TBH, I don't know how I'm going to wait for my girl to grow up....someone hurry up and perfect cryosleep!!! That way I just wake up in 2 years and she'd be turning three. Haha

John

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Yeah, the whitewash comes in a triple ressessive. Axanthic, albino, whitewash. It mixes the genes up and is essentially a genetic paradox. The male is axanthic and the whitewash brings out albino paradoxism. It's a low visual so it would be like a really low pied...basically little more then a ringer pied. The female is a wildtype; the white spots are the whitewash gene bringing out the snow.

John

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So yes, snow is a double recessive but with the added whitewash gene that expresses snow in a paradox type display. Like pieds they can show very little expression to very high expression. Mine are lows. Also like pieds lows make highs and vice versa. On the axanthic male the albino/ww is just a couple little yellow spots.

John

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Hey thanks for explaining!!!

now it makes more sense :)

They are good looking animals and i cant wait to see what the babies will look like they gonna give to you!

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Yeah, the whitewash comes in a triple ressessive. Axanthic, albino, whitewash. It mixes the genes up and is essentially a genetic paradox. The male is axanthic and the whitewash brings out albino paradoxism. It's a low visual so it would be like a really low pied...basically little more then a ringer pied. The female is a wildtype; the white spots are the whitewash gene bringing out the snow.

John

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Originally Posted by JMBall's

So yes, snow is a double recessive but with the added whitewash gene that expresses snow in a paradox type display. Like pieds they can show very little expression to very high expression. Mine are lows. Also like pieds lows make highs and vice versa. On the axanthic male the albino/ww is just a couple little yellow spots.

John

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Hey thanks for explaining!!!

now it makes more sense :)

They are good looking animals and i cant wait to see what the babies will look like they gonna give to you!

That's awesome! Congrats. Subscribed also.

This is essentially a paradox albino gene? Holy crap. :O

http://www.moreliagranites.com/image...e/58glolog.jpg
http://www.moreliagranites.com/image...tewash_com.jpg

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This is essentially a paradox albino gene? Holy crap. :O

http://www.moreliagranites.com/image...e/58glolog.jpg
http://www.moreliagranites.com/image...tewash_com.jpg

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Whitewash is a new ressessive gene. It scrambles genes up and displays them like a paradox. It was discovered in a vpi snow project, so right now it's attached to albino and axanthic in a triple ressessive project. The discoverer has gotten it down to a double recessive and hopes to isolate it this year.

John

They finally showed up. My female has more of the whitewash expression then her bf but they both are awesome in person!http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...25c877762a.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...49b678e5a5.jpg

Thanks for sharing the pics JMBalls! This morph seems pretty cool and I cant wait to see what it does. Good luck with them and keep us posted

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Whitewash is a new ressessive gene. The discoverer has gotten it down to a double recessive and hopes to isolate it this year. John

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That makes sense now. That's a very cool project! It's amazing how much luck was needed to accidently discover the gene.

Looking forward to the gene being isolated and congrats on your new babies!