Temperature of ball python Tub

Hello, I have recently purchased a heating pad for my plastic tub, A hygrometer and a thermostat too. At first, I had a big bowl of water in the tub but when I placed the the hygrometer in the tub, away from the water, it used to give me humidity values of 80-90% which I assume is wrong. So I placed it with a smaller bowl, now I've got around 50 - 60%. My problem now is with the heating pad, I placed it under the tank for a day and noticed that it didn't get warm enough so I placed it in the tub instead, I got an under pads that are used for the bed (mostly for old people) as a substrate. It gets warm enough but the temperature in the tub still says 26 degrees C max in the warm side. Never above that. Sometimes 23 or 21. Any idea on how I could increase it?

Please please please do not put any heating pads inside of the tank and do not use heating pads for humans. Only use under tank heaters for reptile tanks.How much substrate are you using in the tub and what kind of thermostat are you using?

I'm using a zilla reptile heating pad right now and I just placed it outside of the tank. The substrate im using is the underpad that old people use, like diapers on the bed. I put one only and it's pretty nice and soft. The thermostat im using is Hydrofarm MTPRTC Digital Thermostat For Heat Mats. The heating pad is Zilla 09938 Terrarium Heater Heat Mat, 16-Watt, 8 by 12-Inch and the hygrometer im using is AcuRite 00325 Home Comfort Monitor.
The thing about that heatpad is that is does not stick to the tub from underneath, it falls off. And the temperature of the tub (if kept outside) would get really low. What to do?

Oh I had misread I thought you meant you put a human heating pad inside of the tub. :D my mistake! I would suggest paper towels, or aspen inside of the tub. That seems to work very well. As for the hydrofarm, I just had one in my tub and I had to turn it up 6-8 degrees of what I wanted. as for the heating pad I have the same one, in a size small on a 16 quart tub.

What I did was I did not remove the paper backing and I taped it onto the bottom of the tub with aluminium foil tape. That keeps it on.

This is the guide that I used. It works wonderfully!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=139156


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What temperature should I set my heating pad to? I'm currently using a plastic tub with an under tank heating pad that is regulated by a thermostat. I usually set it to its highest which is 42 degrees Celsius because I notice that the temperature goes really low even when the heating pad is at its max.. im concerned about her getting burnt with it yet I would really use something hot enough to raise the temperature in the tub. Is there any possible way to raise the temperature in the tub without harming the snake? Like I said the heat pad is set to the max but still is not hot enough for the tub but is warm enough for the snakes belly.. Furthermore, I don't think increasing the substrate would do anything because she would definitely crawl under it. Thanks in advance.

Currently using a 1 meter long plastic tub with a UTH which is set to 40 degrees Celsius. I got the enclosure about a week ago and the snake has been fine until around 2 days ago when I noticed that the snake was having a red belly, possibly a thermal burn or a scale rot which is why I'm taking her to the vet tomorrow..
The reason why I'm posting a thread is because I'm concerned about the temperature in my tub, even when the heating pad is set to the max, the tub wouldn't get more than 25 degrees Celsius.. how do I get my tub to warm up while using a heating pad that's set to around 30 degrees in order to not burn the snakes belly again?

UTH pads will not increase your ambient temps. Your snake probably did get a bad burn if you were trying to increase the tubs temp while using the UTH. I have tubs that use UTH or heat tape which is basically the same thing in this case and I have to make sure that they are turned down really low because the area of plastic touching the UTH will get excessively hot leaving the rest of the non heat conducting tub warm at best. You need to look into alternate heat sources to increase the ambient temps and make a dimmer switch or set the temps for much lower on the UTH.

A UTH will not raise the ambient temperatures of the tub or any tank. It is just for providing belly heat where it is located.

Find out what temperature it takes to get the floor of the tub to 31-32 Celcius by getting a probed thermometer and placing it in the tub where the heating pad is located. What kind of thermostat are you using? I have a herpstat and it only takes raising the temperature of the uth 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit to reach the desired temperature on the floor of the tub. Is the heating pad actually taped to the tub? I used aluminum tape and that keeps mine taped to the plastic tub. How thick is the substrate where the heating pad is for the snake's warm side?

Are you sure its not the start of a shed?

You can heat a tub with a heat lamp. You just need to use a lamp stand or hang the lamp from something to keep it from contacting the tub and melting it.

Like already stated the uth does not heat the air and you need to get it lowered immediately.

How hot should my heating pad's temperature be? I got wood shaving as a substrate and i noticed that the spot where the heating pad is doesn't get warm enough, the heating pad is slightly warm itself when I touch it and I've assumed that that's how it should be. I'm kind of scared to raise the temperature of the heating pad because I wouldn't want my snake to get burnt (although it already is..) so what to do? Should I just leave it like that? Because again..I don't see the point of having a heating pad on if the snakes not getting any benefit from it right

You need a thermometer ASAP, preferably a IR temp gun. Usually if the hotspot feels warm to you it is to hot for the snake.

Do you not have a thermostat?

Is this a heat pad for humans? If so you need to get a correct uth.

The heat pad is outside the cage?

You need to go buy a digital thermometer with a probe and something to control the heat pad, even if it's just a cheap lamp dimmer from home depot for now. The heat pad should be set between 90-95, I keep mine at 93.


Also, I'm concerned about this part of the post:

"I wouldn't want my snake to get burnt (although it already is..)"

Does that mean your snake already has a burn? If that's so, you need to take the proper steps to help it heal.

I have a thermometer placed inside the tank in the warm side..I also got a thermostat that regulates the heating pad's temperature which is the reason why I asked how hot it should be in the first place :). And no its a heating pad that's specifically for reptiles in general, the brand is known as Zilla but the thing is that it does not stick to the bottom of the tub. Not even with an aluminium foil tape..It keeps falling off everyday, even when I attempt to stick it in the first place, it still leaves a gap between the tub and the pad therefore I had to keep it inside and cover it with substrate, I wouldn't have to worry about water spilling on it because the water bowl is all the way on the other end of the tub and i made sure it does not spill over to the pad.. but that still does not answer my question, how hot should it be in order for it not to burn the snake if she buries herself under the substrate (which she doesn't..but just in case) and also makes the substrate pretty warm?

Thanks..I already have a digital thermometer and a hygrometer and also a thermostat. And yes, it got burnt and i had to take it to the vet earlier which made me concerned about how high/low the heating pad's temperature should be, I got an ointment (ilium neocort) for it and I was advised to rub it against her scales once daily for two weeks until it atleast sheds

You need to take the uth out of the tub. Use duct tape to stick it to the bottom. The water may be on the other side but your snake will urinate and very often this will be on the hotspot.

I keep my hotspot in the 88-90 range.

If your snake has a burn, you need to take all the substrate out and replace it with paper towels. The substrate is going to hurt it's tender areas where it is burned.


The uth should NEVER be inside the enclosure where the snake can touch it. It needs to be stuck underneath the enclosure, I agree duct tape will work.


What is your thermostat set at and what is your thermometer reading? Your UTH is obviously too high, either that or it's shorting out from the moisture inside the enclosure.

You want the SURFACE TEMP THAT YOUR SNAKE CAN TOUCH no more than 95 degrees.

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Originally Posted by Jackk

Currently using a 1 meter long plastic tub with a UTH which is set to 40 degrees Celsius. I got the enclosure about a week ago and the snake has been fine until around 2 days ago when I noticed that the snake was having a red belly, possibly a thermal burn or a scale rot which is why I'm taking her to the vet tomorrow..
The reason why I'm posting a thread is because I'm concerned about the temperature in my tub, even when the heating pad is set to the max, the tub wouldn't get more than 25 degrees Celsius.. how do I get my tub to warm up while using a heating pad that's set to around 30 degrees in order to not burn the snakes belly again?

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That 104 degrees :O:O:O

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Originally Posted by Jackk

I have a thermometer placed inside the tank in the warm side..I also got a thermostat that regulates the heating pad's temperature which is the reason why I asked how hot it should be in the first place :). And no its a heating pad that's specifically for reptiles in general, the brand is known as Zilla but the thing is that it does not stick to the bottom of the tub. Not even with an aluminium foil tape..It keeps falling off everyday, even when I attempt to stick it in the first place, it still leaves a gap between the tub and the pad therefore I had to keep it inside and cover it with substrate, I wouldn't have to worry about water spilling on it because the water bowl is all the way on the other end of the tub and i made sure it does not spill over to the pad.. but that still does not answer my question, how hot should it be in order for it not to burn the snake if she buries herself under the substrate (which she doesn't..but just in case) and also makes the substrate pretty warm?

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No NO NO!!!!
Clean the outside of the tub with rubbing alcohol and the foil tape will stick.
Pads DO NOT GO INSIDE THE TANK!!!!! PERIOD.
You need to read everything now that it is merged together because all the correct answers are there.
Now I have never said this before but you either need to get that snake to a vet for treatment or give it to someone who can treat it.
You are posting a lot but not reading or comprehending what anyone has told you.
This is what you are coming due for:
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