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  • 08-10-2014, 10:19 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Calider!!
    Or two. I've wanted to hatch these out since I saw RDR hatch them 6 years ago. I've seen some that were :confusd: hard to tell. I'm really glad that these look the way they do..Such an under-rated combo. Also both of them are girls :gj:. Looks like I got 0.2 Caliders, 1.0 VPI sugars and the other three are in the egg.

    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...psaed62420.jpg

    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps68a22e0f.jpg

    #1
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps4e16845f.jpg


    #2
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...psb5227b92.jpg

    Also got a couple of really great VPI Sugars too
    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...pse692b6d7.jpg

    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps245834e7.jpg

    Second sugar yet to come outhttp://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps9d739d5b.jpg
  • 08-10-2014, 10:24 PM
    NH93
    Wicked!! Congrats :D
  • 08-10-2014, 11:08 PM
    joebad976
    Very nice..... congrats
  • 08-10-2014, 11:09 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Calider!!
    SOOO jealous! These are the #1 reason I'm hoping my VPI Sugar girl gets up to size this season. I picked up a Bumble Bee male to hopefully make some of these (Sugar Bee!) for myself.

    CONGRATS!!!
  • 08-10-2014, 11:11 PM
    alan12013
    VPI Sugar, wow. Basically they're all really nice looking snakes.
  • 08-11-2014, 12:06 AM
    DooLittle
    Re: Calider!!
    Awesome!! I've just added sugar myself and am super stoked to work with it!
  • 08-11-2014, 12:06 AM
    elbee
    I think calico and spider were made for each other the way enchi and lesser are. Very nice.
  • 08-11-2014, 01:39 AM
    Andybill
    A couple of rad caliders! Congrats!
  • 08-11-2014, 02:12 AM
    tacticalveterinarian
    Re: Calider!!
    Congrats on the really nice Caliders! Post updates as they grow-they will only get better with age!
  • 08-11-2014, 02:21 AM
    ajmreptiles
    very nice, I hope to produce some as stunning as them in the future
  • 08-11-2014, 02:31 AM
    AlexisFitzy
    Re: Calider!!
    These caliders are absolutely perfect!! Congrats on a clutch of beauties :D keep us updated on them, can't wait to see them all after shed and a couple of meals.
  • 08-11-2014, 03:15 AM
    TheSnakeGeek
    Re: Calider!!
    Beautiful. That calider on the right is so clean! Definitely an underrated morph.
  • 08-11-2014, 07:02 AM
    CryHavoc17
    Re: Calider!!
    Those are awesome! So many of the calico combos I see are really unspectacular. Its really starting to become obvious that with this gene the line you work with makes all the difference, and that sugars are clearly better. They are going to be smoking hot as they grow into that white!

    Sent from my SM-G730V using Tapatalk 2
  • 08-11-2014, 09:39 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Calider!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CryHavoc17 View Post
    Those are awesome! So many of the calico combos I see are really unspectacular. Its really starting to become obvious that with this gene the line you work with makes all the difference, and that sugars are clearly better. They are going to be smoking hot as they grow into that white!

    Sent from my SM-G730V using Tapatalk 2

    It's funny. I work with both the VPI sugar and the NWE calico line and to be honest I've produced so neat looking combos using both lines. The one thing I can say is that the Sugars seem..that SEEM (with my limited production of them this year only) to be more colorful as base morphs than the NWE calico's. I've talked with breeder at length about their feelings on if the different lines are different enough to really call "different" and the response seems to be split. Some say yes some say no. Me I'm going to, for now, keep the lines separate and market them separate just for those people that want a VPI sugar or want a Calico..
  • 08-11-2014, 10:19 AM
    MarkS
    Those look great. Congratulations. Clearly those mutations are meant to go together, the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. Like peanut butter and jelly. :D
  • 08-11-2014, 11:54 AM
    ajmreptiles
    Re: Calider!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    It's funny. I work with both the VPI sugar and the NWE calico line and to be honest I've produced so neat looking combos using both lines. The one thing I can say is that the Sugars seem..that SEEM (with my limited production of them this year only) to be more colorful as base morphs than the NWE calico's. I've talked with breeder at length about their feelings on if the different lines are different enough to really call "different" and the response seems to be split. Some say yes some say no. Me I'm going to, for now, keep the lines separate and market them separate just for those people that want a VPI sugar or want a Calico..

    Wilbanks works with both lines and has stated his opinion that they are different enough that he thinks they are different genes. I'm a year or so off from breeding sugars but from what I've seen I prefer the sugar line over the calico line
  • 08-11-2014, 02:04 PM
    Swayback
    Chubby gals there!
    So much pink in all of em!
    gorgeous!
  • 08-11-2014, 02:06 PM
    Smitty524
    Re: Calider!!
    Those are some really nice examples, congrats :gj: I agree that their underrated and imo from what I have seen sugars look nicer with more orange tint to them. Im hoping to add sugar to my collection this weekend at daytona. Really looking for an enchi sugar but I doubt I will be able to find 1.
  • 08-11-2014, 02:25 PM
    Tigerhawk
    congrat's they all look great.
  • 08-11-2014, 04:12 PM
    Philip451
    Congrats on hitting the Calider. Gonna be a looker for sure :)
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