Paradox Purple passion

I was lucky enough to hatch out 3 of these amazing little snakes. One of my favorite combos. Turned out to be 1.2, might just have to keep them all
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Gorgeous.... love the contrast...

Love them all but that paradox is really cool looking

Cool! Isn't hatching a paradox a fun surprise?

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Originally Posted by wendhend

Cool! Isn't hatching a paradox a fun surprise?

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Yes, it is very exciting. My first paradox. He's a keeper


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How do you get a paradox?

One out there possibility is called chimeraism. Basically two separate fertilized eggs fuse together to make one offspring, sort of the opposite of identical twins. Parts of the animal are from one of the eggs and other parts from the other egg. No telling which is responsible for the reproductive tract.

Chimeraism has recently been recognized to happen with humans after investigating apparently impossible paternity/maternity tests but it's unclear how common it is. If it happened with normal ball pythons or even in clutches that could only produce the same mutation you wouldn't notice it. It's only when a clutch could produce more than one type that you have the chance for say a mutant and a normal to fuse. I've not yet heard of one of these paradox albinos coming from a clutch that couldn't have produced both normals and albinos to disprove the theory but that's not saying much as few albino X albino breedings are done and most do involve hets.

Even if chimeraism is responsible for some of the paradox animals there could be other causes seen too.


This is what I pulled up from a previous thread. Anyways beautiful animals.

They all look great. I would be tempted to keep them all.

Absolutely gorgeous little one! I bet that little guy/gal will be even more stunning as an adult.

Absolutely beautiful. Such an awesome surprise to see hatch out.

What beautiful snakes! That paradox though....wow :gj:

Omg. So beautiful. They are amazing. Congrats.

Wow! That is a pretty snake.

Congrats on the clutch, and I agree that is a cool paradox.

Amazing paradox! Thanks for sharing.

Wow that is cool!

Beautiful snakes man. Congrats on the paradox! Btw like your youtube videos :gj:

Wow..have you been able to keep his tub closed lol. Congrats!

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Originally Posted by lightpied

Wow..have you been able to keep his tub closed lol. Congrats!

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It's definitely been tough. Haha


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Beautiful animals. grats :)

That paradox is so cool, I love it!

That is a sweet paradox. Congrats

Does the paradox effect the genetics? When bred will it act as a purple passion or the single gene that is being expressed?

Man oh man these snakes are smoking hot!! XD thanks for sharing.

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That is a sweet paradox. Congrats

Does the paradox effect the genetics? When bred will it act as a purple passion or the single gene that is being expressed?

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It will still act like a super form. If bred to a normal all the babies will be phantoms and mojaves

It's will still act like a super. When bred to a normal all the babies will be phantoms and mojaves

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Originally Posted by SteelCity905

It's will still act like a super. When bred to a normal all the babies will be phantoms and mojaves

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Interesting Read....

http://www.reptileradio.net/ball-pyt...eyed-lucy.html

I don't disagree with you as I have never attempted to breed a paradox animal to a normal to find out what the true results would be. I can see it both ways so it is a little confusing.

I have a question as a noob. If you breed a Mojave to a Phantom will you get BEL's (Super Mojave) as well as Purple Passions or just Purple Passions as the super (in addition to normals, Phantoms, and Mojaves)?

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Originally Posted by ajs

I have a question as a noob. If you breed a Mojave to a Phantom will you get BEL's (Super Mojave) as well as Purple Passions or just Purple Passions as the super (in addition to normals, Phantoms, and Mojaves)?

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You wouldn't get any BELs from that pairing. You would get 25% chances for normal, mojave, phantom, and passions.

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Originally Posted by JPR

You wouldn't get any BELs from that pairing. You would get 25% chances for normal, mojave, phantom, and passions.

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Thanks for the reply. I purchased a male Phantom last year from a well known breeder and bred it with my female Mojave. The eggs hatched three weeks ago and two of the hatchlings look like BEL's.
Do you think they will darken up or did I purchase a dark Mojave instead of a true Phantom?

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Originally Posted by ajs

Thanks for the reply. I purchased a male Phantom last year from a well known breeder and bred it with my female Mojave. The eggs hatched three weeks ago and two of the hatchlings look like BEL's.
Do you think they will darken up or did I purchase a dark Mojave instead of a true Phantom?

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Do they have grey heads? Sounds like you purchased a mojave. Post some pics of the hatchlings.

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Originally Posted by ajs

Thanks for the reply. I purchased a male Phantom last year from a well known breeder and bred it with my female Mojave. The eggs hatched three weeks ago and two of the hatchlings look like BEL's.
Do you think they will darken up or did I purchase a dark Mojave instead of a true Phantom?

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Ya sounds like you got a mojave male instead of a phantom. There no mistaking BELs from potions. I would contact the breeder you got him from and let him know