MONARCH Super Pastel!

Hello everyone! I just wanted to share a couple of photos I took the other evening of one of the Monarch Super Pastels sitting around 300 grams. He is growing up quite nicely! Thanks for looking, and always happy to answer any questions.

Monarch Super Pastel
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...pPasRocks2.jpg
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...pPasRocks1.jpg

Had not heard of it. What are you going to breed him to?

I think the pattern is cool on that snake. I'm looking at a few normals (related) that have some off the wall patterns that I was hoping to incorporate into my single gene mad scientist projects. I can't tell visually what is different about the monarch from a normal. I saw your originals in from 99 and WOW was that the standard for pastels back then? If I posted that now people would tell me I had a normal lol Maybe not that bad but still, they did have awesome blushing. That gene (pastel) has come a LONG way!
I was wondering how the stripe is included in any of this. Is that part of the gene or was there a het some where...
I'm confused because it looks like the ghost gene when combined with the pastel and super pastel but it brightens up the genetic stripe? Some of your old pictures are gone too.
So the 99 pastels produced a genetic stripe offspring, pastels, super pastels and???

Wow ! Not familiar with the monarch gene, I'll be up late now looking into this and it's other combos ;)

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Originally Posted by Gerardo

Had not heard of it. What are you going to breed him to?

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I'm not sure just yet, but will prob put him with a few diff morphs, and make some hets. The Monarch gene is a new recessive that I have been working with since 2009, and unknowingly since 1999. I have produced Monarch, Monarch Pastels, Monarch Super Pastels, Monarch Genetic Stripes, and Monarch Super Pastel Genetic Stripes. Hope to produce the Monarch Mojave this year. Thanks for your post!

Well i gotta check those out. Sounds interesting.

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Originally Posted by SteveySingle

Wow ! Not familiar with the monarch gene, I'll be up late now looking into this and it's other combos ;)

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If you did not find the info you were looking for, I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Hope you were not up too late :D

Amazing looking do you have a monarch to compair him to would love to see them side by side :gj:

Love the monarch gene. I remember the thread showing it's original and progress popping up a while back. Sure is a really nice and clean gene. Your boy look awesome!

:gj::gj::gj:

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Originally Posted by alan12013

I think the pattern is cool on that snake. I'm looking at a few normals (related) that have some off the wall patterns that I was hoping to incorporate into my single gene mad scientist projects. I can't tell visually what is different about the monarch from a normal. I saw your originals in from 99 and WOW was that the standard for pastels back then? If I posted that now people would tell me I had a normal lol Maybe not that bad but still, they did have awesome blushing. That gene (pastel) has come a LONG way!
I was wondering how the stripe is included in any of this. Is that part of the gene or was there a het some where...
I'm confused because it looks like the ghost gene when combined with the pastel and super pastel but it brightens up the genetic stripe? Some of your old pictures are gone too.
So the 99 pastels produced a genetic stripe offspring, pastels, super pastels and???

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Alan,

Yes, the original Pastels are very ugly indeed.....almost hard pressed to call them pastel! Both of these Pastels turned out to be double hets....het for Monarch, and het for Genetic Stripe. When I bred these together the first time I only got two good eggs. I now know that the two babies are a Monarch Super Pastel Genetic Stripe, and a Monarch Pastel. The following year I got a seven egg clutch. 2 super pastels, 1 genetic stripe, 1 pastel genetic stripe, 1 super pastel genetic stripe, 1 Monarch Genetic Stripe, and the first single gene Monarch.

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Originally Posted by oskyle1567

Amazing looking do you have a monarch to compair him to would love to see them side by side :gj:

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Here is a picture of the Monarch when she was approximately the same age

Monarch
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...M7599/MonT.jpg
Monarch Super Pastel
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...pPasRocks1.jpg

Monarch around 2 years old
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...M7599/mon2.jpg

Monarch Pastel adult
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...99/monpas2.jpg

Let me know if I can do anything else for you.

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Originally Posted by Marrissa

Love the monarch gene. I remember the thread showing it's original and progress popping up a while back. Sure is a really nice and clean gene. Your boy look awesome!

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Thank you....always nice to hear!

Truly amazing thanks for the updates