Flame gene

So I have a female citrus super pastel flame that i picked up a few weeks ago. Today I just picked a flame (I'll post pics soon) but I'm just wondering what a pastel super flame would look like. I know a super flame is a black eyed but what would pastel do to the color if anything?

Have you wobp?
World of ball pythons, don't know if it's there but it's a start.

http://i.imgur.com/eglPu69.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EEbxelp.jpgYea They have no pic for super flame I know what that looks like but I'm curious what pastel would would do I heard you wouldn't see much of a difference because it would be a white snake. Here's some pics of my flame one without flash and one with.

That's right, part of the bel complex, sorry to many gene's.

My guess would be it's similar to a pastel super fire.
Nice animal by the way!

Thanks I can't wait to get them up to breeding size might be a year or 2 though :(

Yes it's a waiting game but when that first baby pops it's head out it's all worth it!

what, part of the BEL complex? no way.

BEL is reserved for the blue-eye leucistic complex. there is no BEL in here. you got to find your own words. call it BlkEL or something. this will not make white snakes when combined with bamboo or lesser, so dont call it a BEL.

Fires,flames, and sulfurs make black eyed Lucys I think what he meant was complex as in the white coloration

BlkEL is acceptable, as in black-eyed leucistic. dont get me wrong, i love these combos, i just dont like confusion.

this will work nicely with enchi. super fire is a white snake with black eyes and often with yellow spots in the dorsal area. enchi gives these yellow areas on the dorsal a dark outline. and super enchi super fire is just awesome. if flame is in the same gene complex, as it should be and is expected to be, then i would expect it to rock and roll with enchi.

When asking question like this, I would suggest dropping all the line created names and just use the common ones. You are breeding a Super Fly to a Fire. :)

The only Pastel BlkEL I have seen was at tinley a few years ago and it wasn't even proven it was pastel. The one thing that stuck out about this snake being odd and the camera didn't pick up very well, it the back of the head. Notice the whiter spot touching the yellow on the back of his head? That was a night and day difference in real life, like pied white. I don't know if that is a Pastel BlkEL trait, I don't even know for 100% that it is in fact a Pastel BlkEL (pairing was firefly x fire), but your pairing could shed some light on that

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...r/DSCN0686.jpg

Wow that's an awesome snake I really like the yellow patches on these thanks for sharing the picture! Now I just have to play the waiting game.

Just like OWAL said, Superfly x Fire = Super pastel flame x flame