Kinked Tails

My first clutch of balls is hatching. Two are already out, a super pastel and a butter. Both have kinked tails. They are kinked about halfway between the vent and the tip of the tail. I'm assuming this probably happened because I bought a house and had to move the eggs during incubation, resulting in temperature fluctuation. I know its frowned upon to breed animals with defects like this, but would the females be all right to breed with their tails kinked? It should not be a genetic issue as far as I know, so I would assume they could breed. Any input on this is appreciated.

It depends on what you, the seller, and the buyer are willing to risk. It is probably from a temperature issue, but there is a small chance that it isnt. IMHO, I wouldnt breed them. They are both very common genes, so I wouldnt knowingly breed or buy one with a kinked tail when there are so many others out there without kinks.

Thank you for your input! There are still 3 in the egg, including the super pastel butter I was hoping for. On a lighter note, now I get to go pull eggs from my normal girl who laid sometime today. Hopefully I have better luck with this clutch.

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Here is a photo of the super pastel. The butter is kinked the exact same way.

Hopefully the other 3 developed a little better. Pics when its all said and done.

When breeding you pair the best to the best, and hope for the best. I would not breed a kinked animal.

Even if it is due to the move, it may mean the genetics of these animals are particularly susceptible to temperature fluctuations, because I've heard of plenty of people have power outtages or move eggs or similar things, but babies hatched out 100% ok. I would try to find them "pet only" homes. Lots of people that want pets like the "special" ones, anyway.

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Originally Posted by kc261

Even if it is due to the move, it may mean the genetics of these animals are particularly susceptible to temperature fluctuations, because I've heard of plenty of people have power outtages or move eggs or similar things, but babies hatched out 100% ok. I would try to find them "pet only" homes. Lots of people that want pets like the "special" ones, anyway.

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This. I don't think you'll have any trouble finding pet homes for them.

Well the third one is out. Its the one I thought was a super pastel butter due to the super light head, but it turns out my spider het ghost male got the job done too. No kinks on the bumblebee 50% het ghost! One more is popping, and the last egg has a baby in it, but something doesnt look right. I might cut it a bit more to try to see what's going on with it.

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Well good news one isnt kinked.. clear that last couple and let us know.

I've got a super pastel and a butter with kinked tails, and a bumblebee 50% het ghost and pastel butter with no defects. The fifth baby is still alive in the egg, but looks very deformed. Hopefully the next clutch goes a little smoother.

If you have reached max gestation, I would pull it. If it is seriously deformed it should be humanely euthanized and not left to suffer. Keep us updated.

Just had to euthanize the last baby. It was a very deformed/twisted pastel butter. Not a good feeling when you work so hard to bring something into this world and have to take it out so soon. On the bright side, I learned a lot from this cluch, and will be able to apply it to future clutches. Thanks for the help everybody!

Sorry to hear bro.. was hoping for the best.

Good luck on the future clutches. Cant wait to see some more babies...

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Just had to euthanize the last baby. It was a very deformed/twisted pastel butter. Not a good feeling when you work so hard to bring something into this world and have to take it out so soon. On the bright side, I learned a lot from this cluch, and will be able to apply it to future clutches. Thanks for the help everybody!

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It definitely is not a good feeling but it happens to all of us. Hang in there the next one will be better.

Here's the 4 of them. Super pastel and butter with kinked tails, and a pastel butter and bumblebee 50% het ghost. The bumblebee surprised me, as she only locked with the spider once in October.


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Beautiful clutch

Your hatchlings are nice looking. So sorry you had the troubles. It must have been hard to euthanize the one. But, as you said, I bet you've learned a lot from this.