Very excited!

New snake! The kids and I picked out a female Coastal Carpet today at our local expo. She is 1 year 2 months old and is about 3.5 feet long by eye guessing.

What a nice compliment to the 2 year old Barranquilla, Colombian boa, and our 3 year old royal.

I'll get some pics up when she settles a bit. Nobody knows me here because I'm mostly on the RTB forum.

I looked into SD retics, Eastern kings and Peruvian BCC's and I think I'll be very happy with a carpet. She came out of her hide and is already using her perches since the timers switched off the day lights and turned on the moon lights.

I picked this species because of the semi arboreal traits, just like my boa, but even more so and the likelihood of 8-9 feet.



More to follow.

And here is the more to follow part.

A few terrible pictures here that are all about the same. She bit me today so obviously a long, well planned, NAT GEO style photo session was out LOL!

Here is a Mother Nature, normal Coastal.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01330.jpg

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01336.jpg

And another similar shot.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01338.jpg

Thanks for looking!

WOOHOOOO!! Congratulations!!

I guess the wife decided to let you take the plunge? She's warming up - next thing you know, she'll want one of her own! :D

Gorgeous carpet! Nice choice! :gj:

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

WOOHOOOO!! Congratulations!!

I guess the wife decided to let you take the plunge? She's warming up - next thing you know, she'll want one of her own! :D

Gorgeous carpet! Nice choice! :gj:

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Ha ha! Thanks Kali,,, I've been looking for you here!

Lots to learn about these guys/girls.

This Coastal looks like a jungle, though not a pretty jungle. I'm going to have to buy THE COMPLETE CARPET PYTHON. I believe Nick Mutton is the author. I know the purity in the US is quite questionable and jungles and coastals overlap.

I may have a mutt, an ugly jungle, or a jungle looking coastal.

I'm thrilled either way.

I was hoping to hear how your carpet is in comparison to the boas you own.

Just when I thought my boa was going terrestrial, he took to his new cage, with the new 2" thick perches and was all over the place! I think he's a climber for life.

Even more so, the carpet has not touched the substrate once. She (popped not probed) is up and wrapped on something all of the time.


Looks very jungle here.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_1997.jpg


But these are the parents:
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...202_155153.jpg

I liked her pattern, but you can see some others in the background.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_1999.jpg

She was also the largest, one of the more calm on the handling front too.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2001.jpg

From the pics it really looks like a jungle. If it's only a year old it is most likely still color changing though. Hatchlings carpets don't come put with their natural colors and it changes with each shed until they get their adult colors. I am not sure exactly how long that takes but I have heard it can take a few years.

If it was sold to you as a coastal it most likely still needs to grow into its colors. If it still looks like a jungle when it's grown more I would think you may have been lied to that those are the parents.

Looking back at the pics though it does really look like a jungle. I don't know why you say an ugly jungle. It just looks like a typical jungle. If you are just comparing it to the high yellow jungles, those aren't really natural looking. They are bred to get those colors. In the pics it looks more like a regular jungle carpet.

I only say ugly jungle because of the exact point you made LOL! I truly am into the natural colors most snakes come with and though morphs are fine, I typically look for Mother Nature paint jobs.

I was not promised a coastal though it was sold as one. The breeder rescued the mother and he said there is the possibility that she is not pure. Although I really can't see how two coastals that look like that produced what I have.

Is there an advantage in selling something as a coastal VS a jungle? I thought maybe it would be the other way around.

I fed her last night so I can't get er out for more pictures just yet.

FYI, all of my pictures are in terrible lighting. The expo pics are from my I-Phone, and the cage pictures are horrid lighting shots.

I am rather excited to see just what I'll end up with here.

So far I have a 3 - 3.5 foot "I'm not sure" and it could turn out to be male, though during the popping, it appeared female.

Thanks for the response, and chime in with anything else you might suspect.

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I only say ugly jungle because of the exact point you made LOL! I truly am into the natural colors most snakes come with and though morphs are fine, I typically look for Mother Nature paint jobs.

I was not promised a coastal though it was sold as one. The breeder rescued the mother and he said there is the possibility that she is not pure. Although I really can't see how two coastals that look like that produced what I have.

Is there an advantage in selling something as a coastal VS a jungle? I thought maybe it would be the other way around.

I fed her last night so I can't get er out for more pictures just yet.

FYI, all of my pictures are in terrible lighting. The expo pics are from my I-Phone, and the cage pictures are horrid lighting shots.

I am rather excited to see just what I'll end up with here.

So far I have a 3 - 3.5 foot "I'm not sure" and it could turn out to be male, though during the popping, it appeared female.

Thanks for the response, and chime in with anything else you might suspect.

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Did you pop it or are you talking about what the breeder did when it was first born? From my understanding popping is only reliable when snakes are hatchlings. If yours is over a year old popping might not work.

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Did you pop it or are you talking about what the breeder did when it was first born? From my understanding popping is only reliable when snakes are hatchlings. If yours is over a year old popping might not work.

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Popped in front of me at expo. Appears female. Most mistakes are more likely male being female rather than other way around. In any event I will get it probed at some point just to know the sex.

It looks more jungle to me too. Very pretty.

My carpet is NOTHING like my boas.... or anything like my GTPs either, matter of fact. My Jag is a PISTOL. Incredibly alert and she would very much like to eat me. They are amazing to hold. My boas are so laid back compared to her!

And her feeding response. OMG. I thought the boas were hard hitting. She puts them to shame.......


If you find that book - "The Complete Carpet Python" - please let me know. I've had trouble finding it. And, yes, it was written by Nick Mutton. Thanks!

Very nice Gio. Gratz on the new carpet. :gj:

Pretty sure 3skulls breeds carpets among other snakes. I'd recommend hitting him up for info if necessary. He's a good dude too. Gave me advice on tarantulas and roaches. :gj:

Congrats on the pickup. If you're still looking, can buy the book straight from Nick's website.

http://www.inlandreptile.com/index.html

More pictures.
This was sold to me as a Coastal Carpet, I could care less and really don't see an advantage in lying about a coastal being a jungle or vice versa. I'm fairly aware that carpets in the states are some type of mix for the most part. Purity is hard to come by and I can accept that. I was lucky enough to even get one.

I'm open to comments, thoughts and ideas as to what this may or may not be. Earlier I posted a photo of both parents that truly looked coastal and they are at least partially. There is huge variability in the species, crossing, diluting and so on.

I'm not sure how those parents produced this, but here we go.

This animal could have major color change as its only a year old. My cage maker, Ed Lilley, also high end carpet breeder feels this animal could well be coastal OR jungle OR both.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01357.jpg

Pattern shot.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01355.jpg

More pattern.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01354.jpg

Head pattern from the top.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01353.jpg

Different shot from the side.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01352.jpg
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01350.jpg

Most of the body.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01349.jpg

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01348.jpg

Belly
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01347.jpg

Side
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01345.jpg
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01340.jpg

Better head shot.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01341.jpg

Last one.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/DSC01344.jpg

Oddly her colors look better in pictures than in real life.

Supposed to be the mother. I was told it was questionable as to what she was 100%.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...illa/image.jpg

Both parents in this pic.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...202_155153.jpg

I'm not familiar enough with coastals to give any feedback in that regard but you do have a nice looking snake there.

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I'm not familiar enough with coastals to give any feedback in that regard but you do have a nice looking snake there.

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Thanks, I like her no matter what. Jungles and Coastals are very close in relation and they very a great deal. I will be curious to see the end size result and color change.

In a way, I'm rather hoping for a cross as I don't want anything too huge, but only because I'd have to upsize the cage.

I'll be bumping up the feeding soon and we should see some changes.

I'll also be getting that book!

Nice snake you have there! I'm hoping to get carpet one day and the one you have is very nice. I wonder, just as you said, what it will look like in the future.

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Nice snake you have there! I'm hoping to get carpet one day and the one you have is very nice. I wonder, just as you said, what it will look like in the future.

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Thanks. I've been do a lot of research and things are classed and reclassed frequently. There is a study that shows DNA of coastal and jungle carpet pythons is the same and one could consider the jungle a "locality" of coastal. It could also explain why there are some very large jungle carpets out there. Almost everything, note I said almost, in the US has about 30 years of crossing and diluting going on. Looking at some of the Aussie carpet pictures and forums, you can see a lot of differences. I may end up with a giant, or a very colorful, small snake. It's sort of fun not really knowing. Yet I do know the mother is 9.5 feet long.