I need a bigger snake..

So. I breed my own rats, right? Well when they get big and retired I have nowhere for the to go. They basically get put to the side and live til they die(well none have died yet). Seems like a good excuse to get another snake, something over than a bp that can handle these jumbo sized rats-was thinking a red tail. But I also like the idea of having something a little less common, retics are too big-so don't suggest those lol

Any ideas? I know there's a lot of snakes that are out there. But basically I want something that'll eat my jumbos but won't need anything bigger either ;)
Disclaimer: I will feed appropriately, not just when I have a retired rat to get rid of.

So I just saw a post about a "quarter dwarf" retic. Doing research now on their mad size and to find out what the dwarf retics are all about. Perfect solution so long as they don't get huge like regular retics :-)

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Originally Posted by SteveySingle

So I just saw a post about a "quarter dwarf" retic. Doing research now on their mad size and to find out what the dwarf retics are all about. Perfect solution so long as they don't get huge like regular retics :-)

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Don't be fooled by the 'dwarf' name!! My Jampea, which is about 25% dwarf, will likely get to be over 14ft. maybe closer to 17. Super Dwarfs only get 6-8ft, but be prepared to shell out a pretty penny...and make sure it's from a proper breeder. Lots of people claim dwarf blood...when there isn't...;P

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps6e217179.jpg

That's my 25% dwarf...she's only a year old. ;D

How about an aussie like a Bredli?

If you like boas, but like you said want something not as common. There are plenty of cool boa morphs these days.


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Bloods also come to mind

Dang. Dwarf is not the right word for those snakes lol. Bloods are beautiful. I'll be exploring the internet tonight and comparing different options. Let ya know what I come up with!

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Dang. Dwarf is not the right word for those snakes lol. Bloods are beautiful. I'll be exploring the internet tonight and comparing different options. Let ya know what I come up with!

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Yeah, Dwarf just refers to the locale of the retic =] VERY misleading...I wish they'd not use that term, but meh.

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Yeah, Dwarf just refers to the locale of the retic =] VERY misleading...I wish they'd not use that term, but meh.

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Come on now Amanda, don't be so angered by this terminology . . . You know VERY well that dwarf blood keeps em small, just need a lot more than 25% ;-)

I had a 25% Kalatoa (Super Dwarf) 12.5% Jampea (Dwarf) mix female, and she was 12' after 2 years, and still not done growing as of yet.

Then again, I have 50% SD stuff that stays around 7.5' but this is F2 . . .
I have an F1 male 50% SD Tiger who is just over 10' . . . and its a male . . .

I just sold my platinum who was 50% SD female, she's 2 and a half years old, and she was 11'! It's extremely variable. BUT There are options like pures that will get you in a manageable size range. Pure Jampea males should not exceed 8' (unless you push them in food!). Pure Super Dwarf Males don't exceed 6', but they also wont eat too big of meals.

I'll throw a hat out there for Woma Pythons. They are fun and mine ate jumbo rats without hesitation (adult female). Boas are nice because they metabolize food quite slowly, so you have time in between feedings. But if you want something different . . . Scrub pythons can be fun ;-) but also quite large. . .

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Come on now Amanda, don't be so angered by this terminology . . . You know VERY well that dwarf blood keeps em small, just need a lot more than 25% ;-)

I had a 25% Kalatoa (Super Dwarf) 12.5% Jampea (Dwarf) mix female, and she was 12' after 2 years, and still not done growing as of yet.

Then again, I have 50% SD stuff that stays around 7.5' but this is F2 . . .
I have an F1 male 50% SD Tiger who is just over 10' . . . and its a male . . .

I just sold my platinum who was 50% SD female, she's 2 and a half years old, and she was 11'! It's extremely variable. BUT There are options like pures that will get you in a manageable size range. Pure Jampea males should not exceed 8' (unless you push them in food!). Pure Super Dwarf Males don't exceed 6', but they also wont eat too big of meals.

I'll throw a hat out there for Woma Pythons. They are fun and mine ate jumbo rats without hesitation (adult female). Boas are nice because they metabolize food quite slowly, so you have time in between feedings. But if you want something different . . . Scrub pythons can be fun ;-) but also quite large. . .

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SUPER Dwarfs, yeah...but regular dwarf blood is SO variable, that it's hard to say they'll ONLY get to be a certain size ;P I also think that Zazz's grandpa, who was a pure jamp, was somewhere around 14ft...

Basically, if you can't handle the size, don't do dwarf. Super dwarf at best ;P

Dwarf has the potential to go big (Jampea) but does not have to :cool:

all I hear is "blah blah blah, I'm a dirty ho, blah blah"
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just kidding, of course. I guess part of it could be due to sooo much mixed blood that it's hard to tell what really is dwarf

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Yeah, Dwarf just refers to the locale of the retic =] VERY misleading...I wish they'd not use that term, but meh.

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Correction to myself: Dwarf CAN refer to the locale, but does often refer to the size. Confusing as fuh. 14' IS dwarf compared to 22'...but still huge ;P

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Correction to myself: Dwarf CAN refer to the locale, but does often refer to the size. Confusing as fuh. 14' IS dwarf compared to 22'...but still huge ;P

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Guess the terms big or small are all relative. In the realm of bps anything retic is going to be big sd or not! :)

It's true XD

How about a dumerils or Madagascan ground boa? They get big enough to handle them but not too big and they're not too common(especially the Madagascans). A blood python would also be a good option. I'd say not a super dwarf retic because while they're longer they're still pretty thin. A regular dwarf or a half dwarf might work though. Yellow anaconda maybe? They can be a bit larger than a red trail but not to big, then again there's the issue with that law... Angolan pythons aren't too common and they're a bit bigger than balls but I don't know if they're quite big enough for a jumbo rat.

^ I was thinking yellow anaconda too or blood pythons since they don't get really lengthy just super girthy


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Look into the Liasis genre. I been obsessing over these myself and probably going to be my next snake.
Macklot's pythons are a nice medium size from what I heard (6 - 8 ft) and the main subspecies of olive python is quite big (8 - 13 ft) but not gigantic like a mainland retic. Their care is supposed to be quite straightforward as well. If there's one con, which may not even be a con for some people, is their food aggression, which is supposed to be just as intense as a retic.
There's also white lipped pythons (6 - 9 ft) if you're feeling adventurous and can provide humidity for their rather thin skin.

Prehistoric Pets has Normal Super Dwarfs for $475. right now.

Well folks, I saw this beauty in Daytona and thought he'd suit my needs-won't get too big, won't stay too small...and beautiful.
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/...psjkqsx0mx.jpg

My female BCI takes a f/t retired breeder jumbo rat every three weeks with no problem, and the greedy little thing would probably eat one a week if I let her. She's just over 7' now at five years old. My adult males are doing very well a large rats every three weeks.

Surprised no one has mentioned carpet pythons :confusd: