New Addition/Possible extra gene at play? Need opinions

Hello everyone I wanted to share my newest addition with you and get your opinion on if she has any extra gene at play. Some background info: I bought this Female butter from an awesome guy on Fauna Classifieds his name is Vance Carmon. He did not produce this female butter, he bought her from a reptile show and forgot to ask the breeder about the pairing that produced her because he thought something extra may be at play as well but he never got around to it. So the only thing that makes me think something extra is going is that she has a very clean pattern and her colors are a neon yellow/purplish hue that I've never really seen on a butter/lesser before. So I'd love to see what you guys think. First I'll share the pics Vance sent to me.

Picture in the ad that drew me to her.
http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2re56elc.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...psmew5qkrm.jpg

Extra pics that I requested because I couldn't believe she was just a Butter.
http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...pswrteqush.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...pso85cizok.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...psrnjmddgr.jpg

Now I just received her today and I wanted to take some quick pics of my own before getting her settled in to her new home. Her colors are Extremely hard to capture on camera. The neon yellow just doesn't get picked up very well with a camera lens. It was also kinda cloudy so the sun wasn't shining to make her true colors easier to see.

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps94b24159.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf780d35a.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps88b47ef7.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3508bff6.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6d775881.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0e6fdbad.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps47d444c0.jpg

I don't mind if she's just a butter I love her & I think she's perfect 😊 she will be paired up with my bumblebee Bubo when they are ready. I just want to know what I could be working with :)

Ps. She was sold to me at a butter price.
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Well... she certainly isn't your average run of the mill butter is she? Lovely pickup. I'm curious to see what people say about her.

Wow lucky grab! Very light fire lesser :gj:.

Love the look of her! My soft spot for good looking single gene females is growing by the minute. If you'd like, go ahead and send her my direction once she gets up to breeding size and I can test Travis's Fire theory. ;)

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Originally Posted by h00blah

Wow lucky grab! Very light fire lesser :gj:.

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I am on the boat with h00blah. I would plan to pair her with a male fire or vanilla something in the future to prove out that fire gene.

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Originally Posted by kc261

Well... she certainly isn't your average run of the mill butter is she? Lovely pickup. I'm curious to see what people say about her.

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Haha thank you :) I feel in love the moment I laid eyes on her and knew I had to have her! And the price was way too good to pass up! I'm very curious about more comments too [emoji4]


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Originally Posted by h00blah

Wow lucky grab! Very light fire lesser :gj:.

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Thanks so much :) I'm so glad you said this because that's what I thought she could be but didn't write it in my post just to not make any assumptions. But the really light color and little head spot make me lean toward fire. But I'm very excited to get her paired up with something and see what pops out :)


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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Love the look of her! My soft spot for good looking single gene females is growing by the minute. If you'd like, go ahead and send her my direction once she gets up to breeding size and I can test Travis's Fire theory. ;)

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Thank you [emoji4] and I have a huge soft spot for the perfect single gene female. I can't afford the expensive multigene animals so I like to find the best example of the single gene and get a nice two gene male so i can make those expensive snakes I can't afford and hold them back. Haha and she's not going anywhere [emoji12] I can't wait to prove out what she is though!


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Originally Posted by Ladybugzcrunch

I am on the boat with h00blah. I would plan to pair her with a male fire or vanilla something in the future to prove out that fire gene.

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Thank you, that's a wonderful idea! Make some yummy vanilla creams, or super fires! I'll definitely have to change up my breeding plans a little to prove this girl out :)


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She's beautiful! Congrats on the new addition!

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Originally Posted by bumblebee1028

She's beautiful! Congrats on the new addition!

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Thank you! I've very very happy with her [emoji4]


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Great looking snake! I would use a Vanilla combination to test the Fire theory (Super Fires are great snakes, but that might hide any other genes, such as the Butter or anything that will be in the male).

Nice looking girl. My first thought was a Butter Daddy, but Fire seems more likely...

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Originally Posted by sho220

Nice looking girl. My first thought was a Butter Daddy, but Fire seems more likely...

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Thanks :) I have a friend that was thinking the same thing, but I agree that fire seems more likely.

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Originally Posted by Slowcountry Balls

Great looking snake! I would use a Vanilla combination to test the Fire theory (Super Fires are great snakes, but that might hide any other genes, such as the Butter or anything that will be in the male).

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Thank you :) and thats why I'm reluctant to do a fire combo with her because I'll know she's a fire butter/lesser but then I won't be able to tell a super fire from a super fire butter, so I'd have to prove those out too lol. So I may just do a Vanilla combo instead.

Gosh, I can't see her just being an a butter. That's a stunning snake! Have fun dinking around to find out!

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Originally Posted by Tommy Sealock

Gosh, I can't see her just being an a butter. That's a stunning snake! Have fun dinking around to find out!

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Thank you [emoji4] and I definitely will, luckily she's a great eater and hasn't missed a meal yet (knock on wood) so she will definitely be ready for next season. She's already close to 1000g and shows no signs of slowing down. Just gets more and more beautiful as she grows too. She's a great girl.


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Originally Posted by Ladybugzcrunch

I am on the boat with h00blah. I would plan to pair her with a male fire or vanilla something in the future to prove out that fire gene.

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I'm in this boat, as well. What a fantastic pickup! The idea of pairing her with a suitably nice vanilla is a great way to go, I think.

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Originally Posted by Alicia

I'm in this boat, as well. What a fantastic pickup! The idea of pairing her with a suitably nice vanilla is a great way to go, I think.

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Thank you [emoji4] I love how this thread just came back to life lol, I have a lot of plans for this girl. Vanilla will definitely be in her future. Maybe a vanilla enchi. Could make a vanilla cream butter enchi!


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She looks similar to my 2013 butter possible specter girl. She's from a BEL (butter mojave) x pastel pair. Her breeder thinks that his pastel female may be a pastel specter. My female was originally labelled as a pastel but I agree with the breeder's theory. I think she's more than a butter but she just looks different than a pastel butter to me. I'm going to try to prove her out when she gets up to breeding size by pairing her with my ivory male. If she produces super stripes, I'll know for sure.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...2ad0aba4c4.jpg
That's an old picture, she's gotten a little lighter and more blushed out with age.

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Originally Posted by greco

She looks similar to my 2013 butter possible specter girl. She's from a BEL (butter mojave) x pastel pair. Her breeder thinks that his pastel female may be a pastel specter. My female was originally labelled as a pastel but I agree with the breeder's theory. I think she's more than a butter but she just looks different than a pastel butter to me. I'm going to try to prove her out when she gets up to breeding size by pairing her with my ivory male. If she produces super stripes, I'll know for sure.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...2ad0aba4c4.jpg
That's an old picture, she's gotten a little lighter and more blushed out with age.

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Omg this girl is gorgeous!!! She definitely has something going on as well. I hope she proves to have the specter gene that would be really great, Superstripes are beautiful. I got to hold one at the first expo I went to.


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She is absolutely stunning!! And I definitely agree that it looks like there there may be a fire gene at play because of the head stamp and clean pattern. Best of luck!! :) Either way, she is gorgeous!!

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Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90

She is absolutely stunning!! And I definitely agree that it looks like there there may be a fire gene at play because of the head stamp and clean pattern. Best of luck!! :) Either way, she is gorgeous!!

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Thank you so much [emoji4] and I'm really leaning towards the fire gene because of the stamp and her similarity to some of the nuclears on world of bp. And I've seen someone on here hatch out some really nice nuclears that look similar to Delilah. She will be getting paired up with my bumblebee next season since he's my only male that will be ready by then. So I'm hoping for some really nice fire combos like Butterfly's and nuclear bees. [emoji4]


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That is a Nuclear for sure :gj:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...psa411cb7e.jpg

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

That is a Nuclear for sure :gj:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...psa411cb7e.jpg

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Always love to get some extra reassurance especially when I paid only $275 for her [emoji4]

Corey's we irked with and produced some nice Nuclear stuff, especially with his Clown project, if my memory is correct. At the price you got her, that's a great deal! Any updated pictures of her? Have you decided on her future date? The Vanilla Enchi sounded like a good idea. If you could find a Super Vanilla Enchi, that would be even better. Of course, you could go with a Disco combination too. Either way, good luck.

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Originally Posted by Slowcountry Balls

Corey's we irked with and produced some nice Nuclear stuff, especially with his Clown project, if my memory is correct. At the price you got her, that's a great deal! Any updated pictures of her? Have you decided on her future date? The Vanilla Enchi sounded like a good idea. If you could find a Super Vanilla Enchi, that would be even better. Of course, you could go with a Disco combination too. Either way, good luck.

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I have a couple of updated pics of her but they aren't the best, but she looks the same if not better just a lot chunkier lol. The pics are in this thread
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ogression-pics
I'm pretty set on my bumblebee being her future partner. I want her first pairing to be to a bumblebee then the next to be an enchi orange dream. I'm completely obsessed with the orange dream gene and I want to get into it Asap. I have some big plans for her when it comes to adding orange dream. I'll probably incorporate the vanilla gene at some point but right now I'm making a beeline for the orange dream lol.

I have a few ideas on future dates ;)

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps1891abbf.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps547d396d.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps35979b0d.jpg

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I have a few ideas on future dates ;)

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps1891abbf.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps547d396d.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps35979b0d.jpg

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These boys are gorgeous :D just send them right over and I'll definitely put them to work ;) haha

And these males are Killer Clown, SugarFly, and Enchi firefly? Possibly maybe? Lol

She's stunning! Can't wait to see her offspring!!

(maybe it's just really nice other, minor alleles - a new line of butter!)

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Originally Posted by PeterPieBaldPython

She's stunning! Can't wait to see her offspring!!

(maybe it's just really nice other, minor alleles - a new line of butter!)

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Thank you so much! [emoji4] and that would be really amazing if she was a new line of butter. It's going to be really fun seeing her babies. I will make a breeding thread whenever I start pairing her and keep everyone updated on everything. It's funny because I'm really excited to see her start glowing once she's gravid. She already looks like she's glowing so her glow should be EPIC! :D