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  • 06-26-2014, 08:13 AM
    dillymann
    Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    I just got some THG heat tape and set it up on my new (homemade) rack and i bought the an original herpstat to use but when I set it to 88 the heat tape gets to 95+ what should I do?....


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  • 06-26-2014, 08:25 AM
    bcr229
    Set the herpstat to 84*F, wait a bit, and re-check the temps.
  • 06-26-2014, 08:26 AM
    dillymann
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Set the herpstat to 84*F, wait a bit, and re-check the temps.

    But shouldn't the temp be what is displayed on the herpstat?


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  • 06-26-2014, 08:36 AM
    vangarret2000
    Herpstats can be recalibrated from what I am told, but I don't know how.

    Also where are you putting your probe? It should be in the tank over the heat tape(the glass separating the two). The tape needs to heat that spot to the temp you pick so the tape itself is gonna be hotter then the reading from in the tank.
  • 06-26-2014, 08:37 AM
    dillymann
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vangarret2000 View Post
    Herpstats can be recalibrated from what I am told, but I don't know how.

    Also where are you putting your probe? It should be in the tank over the heat tape(the glass separating the two). The tape needs to heat that spot to the temp you pick so the tape itself is gonna be hotter then the reading from in the tank.

    I was told to never put the probe in bins... Its outside the bin on the heat tape


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  • 06-26-2014, 08:47 AM
    bcr229
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dillymann View Post
    But shouldn't the temp be what is displayed on the herpstat?

    Not necessarily. If the probe is just sitting on the heat tape, it could be warm on one side but cool from the air on the other.
  • 06-26-2014, 08:56 AM
    dillymann
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    So it will be ok or no?


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  • 06-26-2014, 09:08 AM
    wycked
    1. I would play with the set point on the t-stat. Raise and lower it to make sure the unit is cutting on and off and not just staying on.
    2. Assuming it's working just play with the set point and measure the temp at the hot spot until you have it working at a desirable range.
    For example if, when set at 88 the actual temp is 95, lower the set point to 83 or so and see is you end up around 90 on the actual temp.
    3. For measuring actual temps, I'm hoping you're using something accurate. (IR Heat gun) But that's your call.
    4. The main thing is just to make sure the t-stat is coming on and off. Then regardless of where your probe is situated you can compensate for differences between set point and actual temp.
  • 06-26-2014, 09:11 AM
    dillymann
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wycked View Post
    1. I would play with the set point on the t-stat. Raise and lower it to make sure the unit is cutting on and off and not just staying on.
    2. Assuming it's working just play with the set point and measure the temp at the hot spot until you have it working at a desirable range.
    For example if, when set at 88 the actual temp is 95, lower the set point to 83 or so and see is you end up around 90 on the actual temp.
    3. For measuring actual temps, I'm hoping you're using something accurate. (IR Heat gun) But that's your call.
    4. The main thing is just to make sure the t-stat is coming on and off. Then regardless of where your probe is situated you can compensate for differences between set point and actual temp.

    Im using an IR temp gun to measure the heat tape... It seems that when the temp goes below 88 the stat applies power and the heat tape gets to 95 but now it seems to be holding temp... Stats at 88 and heat tape is at 88 now...


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  • 06-26-2014, 09:23 AM
    wycked
    Yea, forgot that that one is proportional. So the on/off thing is irrelevant. It should more or less hold where it's set at. You can still adjust the set point if you continue to have issues.

    But it seems like its just taking a little while to balance out.
  • 06-26-2014, 09:23 AM
    dillymann
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Ok


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  • 06-26-2014, 09:34 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Adjust for temp IN the tub.
    I have mine set at 97 to have about 92 in the tub.
  • 06-26-2014, 10:08 AM
    CORBIN911
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vangarret2000 View Post
    Herpstats can be recalibrated from what I am told, but I don't know how.

    Also where are you putting your probe? It should be in the tank over the heat tape(the glass separating the two). The tape needs to heat that spot to the temp you pick so the tape itself is gonna be hotter then the reading from in the tank.


    False, no need for it in the Tank...

    Theirs many things depending on which Tape you used to put on heat tape, aswell how much of the probe is covered.

    IR temp guns are good here, because this reason, If you set to 88, and its 94! as other said set to 84 itll be 90* Aslong as this is a constant you wont have an issue, Sometimes the tape will run a little hotter, I had mine set to 89, and it heated to 95 on 1 of the ARS levels, so i had to change out the level, Alot is dependent of the heat, tape. (i had 7 diffrent strips where youll likely have 1 looped in and out) So just lower Herps temp and IR gun the tape to get your hotspot correct.
  • 06-26-2014, 10:20 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    False, no need for it in the Tank...

    Theirs many things depending on which Tape you used to put on heat tape, aswell how much of the probe is covered.

    IR temp guns are good here, because this reason, If you set to 88, and its 94! as other said set to 84 itll be 90* Aslong as this is a constant you wont have an issue, Sometimes the tape will run a little hotter, I had mine set to 89, and it heated to 95 on 1 of the ARS levels, so i had to change out the level, Alot is dependent of the heat, tape. (i had 7 diffrent strips where youll likely have 1 looped in and out) So just lower Herps temp and IR gun the tape to get your hotspot correct.

    Why are you temping the tape?
    You temp the surface that your snake can touch.
  • 06-26-2014, 10:24 AM
    dillymann
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    I have a digital thermometer for that and it was reading high too...


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  • 06-26-2014, 10:29 AM
    CORBIN911
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Why are you temping the tape?
    You temp the surface that your snake can touch.


    I dont temp the tape. But 6/7(1 unused level being 8) levels were correct and the 5th level was Way off due to heat tape error, So when I directly temped it, i could see there was an issue? As i have a Herpstat2 with top 4 lvls on power bar for 1 section and bottom 4 levels with other section.
  • 06-26-2014, 12:13 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    So just lower Herps temp and IR gun the tape to get your hotspot correct.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    I dont temp the tape.

    Didnt think my eyes were lying. They why recommend something that is wrong and you dont do?

    You always temp the spot your animal can touch. I dont care where you put the probe or how you wire. You never want the area they can touch hotter than recommended.
  • 06-26-2014, 12:19 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Didnt think my eyes were lying. They why recommend something that is wrong and you dont do?

    You always temp the spot your animal can touch. I dont care where you put the probe or how you wire. You never want the area they can touch hotter than recommended.


    Here we go again with this..... IF you read the post, i say that i set my herp to X heat to get X heat on the hot spot... when 1 ROW of my Rack heat isnt correct, I measured the Tape/Heat strip (ARS has there heat tape in aluminum "plates/shelfs(iguess) ) And when it wasnt reaching the same temp as others, IT was Faulty, So i replaced? Nowhere did i say NOT TO Temp hot spot.... And If hotspot temp is wrong, Yes i will and should others Take the temp of the heat tape (if all tubs/husbandry is the same) Too see where the fault in tape is or if the strip is faulty.....

    Maybe my no need for it in the tank caused you confusion because i did not word it 100% but it was a direct reply to PLACING the probe inside the tank, Which shouldnt be done due to water/urine/humidty messing with the hot spot.


    This is again what I said

    IR temp guns are good here, because this reason, If you set to 88, and its 94! as other said set to 84 itll be 90* Aslong as this is a constant you wont have an issue, Sometimes the tape will run a little hotter, I had mine set to 89, and it heated to 95 on 1 of the ARS levels, so i had to change out the level, Alot is dependent of the heat, tape. (i had 7 diffrent strips where youll likely have 1 looped in and out) So just lower Herps temp and IR gun the tape to get your hotspot correct.

    So maybe your eyes arnt lying, but your also not reading everything. Im done responding to most posts your involved in as you like to harass or try to belittle.
  • 06-26-2014, 01:18 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    [/COLOR][/B] Im done responding to most posts your involved in as you like to harass or try to belittle.

    If this is so true you are more than welcome to have one of the Admins review my posts, I assume you know how to contact them.

    And again as I have stated, you should temp INSIDE the tub there your animal can touch, NOT the heat source. There can be some heat loss so you want to know that actual temp.
  • 06-26-2014, 01:21 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    If this is so true you are more than welcome to have one of the Admins review my posts, I assume you know how to contact them.

    And again as I have stated, you should temp INSIDE the tub there your animal can touch, NOT the heat source. There can be some heat loss so you want to know that actual temp.


    And again i have said I Checked the INSIDE, temp and IF it is NOT hot enough I then CHECK the HEAT TAPE.... Please READ

    AS i said, I have my Herp set to 89, And the one HEAT TAPE was reaching higher then wanted temps, because it was faulty, So then i temped it and realized it needed to be replaced.

    Iv said to IR temp the HOT spot many times IN order to "tune" your thermostat to the required temp. So yes your eyes are broken.

    Just because you have a green name doesnt mean you can belittle.
  • 06-26-2014, 01:27 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Heat tape getting too hot!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    Just because you have a green name doesnt mean you can belittle.

    The green doesn't matter and at no point have I tried to belittle you.
    For betterment I am not going to respond in this thread to you anymore.
    Just keep in mind YOU are posting in a public forum and I have already told you how to handle this should your feeling be hurt.
  • 06-26-2014, 01:33 PM
    ElliotNess
    Well hopefully the heating issues get resolved here. Thats what is important I see in this thread..
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