Humidity

I have 4 snakes and I keep them together by gender, my two thanks have a humidity level of 70% to 75 % is that too much I'm really new on this BP world and I wanna do thinnest for my snakes. I will appreciate your advice and opinions http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/19/ju3yqymu.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/19/yda8apug.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/19/4u2ygyhu.jpg


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You could start by not keeping them together

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Agreed they all need separate tanks. IMO 70-75% is too high unless they are in a shed cycle, sounds like scale rot waiting to happen, but then again what do I know....:O:D

I didn't know about the tanks I though that if I have my two males together and the females as well it was good. And about the humidity which will be the best %?


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About 50-60% with 83-85° ambient

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And I was wondering why can't you keep two snakes of the same sex together


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And I was wondering why can't you keep two snakes of the same sex together


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first thought is those cages look too small to do that...second is that it could be seen as competition and added stress on the animal, they have no way to get away from each other if they wanted to. You are essentially forcing them to be together.

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Thank you I'll separate them when I get home


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It stresses them out to house them together, and when they get stressed they can refuse to eat, become aggressive. It just isn't good for their overall health.

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About 50-60% with 83-85° ambient

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85 ambient....No


You can have a 77-80 ambient overall, 85 is pushing it if you ask me with that a hot spot could be taken away.


With humidity i run roughly 55-65% more humid early when humidifier on then let it fall out night.

My ambient in room is roughly 78+/- so open air ARS rack its again roughly 78+/- with a hot spot of 90.

I believe if you had a ambient of 85 he'd be sitting on or around water ALOT.

About keeping them together the fact that on each pair that I have male and female one is a baby an the other way bigger. Does it change something?


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No, it doesn't change anything. Honestly, some veteran snake keepers keep snakes together, but they are generally extremely well knowledged and financially and mentally prepared for the worst. If you're asking a simple question such as ambient temps and humidity ranges, you most certainly are not prepared for something to go wrong. I highly suggest separating them, and keeping them apart. It's an honest mistake that a lot of novice keepers do. I'd be lying if I said I didn't think about it before I knew more. But I've been keeping reptiles for close to 4 years and I still wouldn't consider keeping them together.

They don't benefit in the least to being kept together, so any excuse to do it as a new person is just laziness.

Beautiful snakes by the way!

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I know...that's been a growing trend lately. Soooooo disappointed! :D These used to be the best threads EVAR!!!!

when you keep two together, they might start fighting.

basically, one of the snake starts harassing the other snake 24/7, so that the other snake gives in and gets away. well, thats what happens in nature, one would give in and get away. when you keep two in one enclosure, thats obviously not possible, so when they start fighting, it will continue indefinitely until the stress starts impacting the health and one of them ends up dead. snakes are not that smart, and when one snake wants another snake gone, and the other snake doesnt leave, they think they need to escalate it and be even more agressive, because the other snake is being defiant by refusing to leave. they dont make the connection that the other snake physically cannot leave.

nature is big, there is always another rhodent burrow or termite mound, and in nature they would never harass each other for months until the health of one of them slowly deteriorates to the point of death.

that being said, its possible to keep them in groups. its just really, really difficult and advanced stuff. basically when you keep two together, they need A LOT more space and hiding places, so that one can get away from the other and they dont constantly run into each other. maybe 5 times the space that one BP needs would be a starting point, if you want to keep two together. and you need to watch their behavior and be ready to immediately seperate them if things go south, and you also need to seperate them for feeding. so its not a way to save any space, quite the opposite, if you want to keep two together, you need one really big and well-designed enclosure for your experiment, and one backup enclosure for an individual BP needs to be ready, in case the experiment fails.

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85 ambient....No


You can have a 77-80 ambient overall, 85 is pushing it if you ask me with that a hot spot could be taken

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I keep mine at 85 ambient, 88-91 hotspot with 50-53% humidity avg and they spend all there time balled on there hotpsot, i rarely see them on the cool side wich is 78-80

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I keep mine at 85 ambient, 88-91 hotspot with 50-53% humidity avg and they spend all there time balled on there hotpsot, i rarely see them on the cool side wich is 78-80

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Odd... me and breeders iv visited once it hits 80-81 they always in front of the tubs.


Aswell BP's aggresion may not always be visible to us, As it consists of "shoving" or overpowering by draping from forums iv read, So you may say oh they cuddling, when infact ones trying to gain dominance.

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Odd... me and breeders iv visited once it hits 80-81 they always in front of the tubs. .

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Hmm might be different for tubs. I use tanks until i get a rack. It might change

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Thank you you all . I'll take the advice of everything


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Originally Posted by Skittles1101

No, it doesn't change anything. Honestly, some veteran snake keepers keep snakes together, but they are generally extremely well knowledged and financially and mentally prepared for the worst. If you're asking a simple question such as ambient temps and humidity ranges, you most certainly are not prepared for something to go wrong. I highly suggest separating them, and keeping them apart. It's an honest mistake that a lot of novice keepers do. I'd be lying if I said I didn't think about it before I knew more. But I've been keeping reptiles for close to 4 years and I still wouldn't consider keeping them together.

They don't benefit in the least to being kept together, so any excuse to do it as a new person is just laziness.

Beautiful snakes by the way!

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Thank you


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