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  • 05-25-2014, 12:44 AM
    futurereptilebreeder
    Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Not looking For money, just wondering which ones sell the best and are popular..:snake::snake::snake::snake:
  • 05-25-2014, 01:04 AM
    Ridinandreptiles
    Well here's the types of combos I like, not necessarily the most popular: chocolate, enchi, calico
  • 05-25-2014, 01:05 AM
    futurereptilebreeder
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Thanks I really like chocolates 2
  • 05-25-2014, 06:41 AM
    sho220
    Your post makes no sense...

    Best Mid Range morphs to invest in? << Indicates you're looking to make some money...

    Not looking For money, << but now it's not about money? just wondering which ones sell the best and are popular << and now we're back to making money...?

    Either breed what you personally like, or be honest about your intentions...
  • 05-25-2014, 07:49 AM
    qegalpal
    What do you consider mid-range? BPs go from $30 all the way up to $30,000 +
    To me, a good mid-range investment would be getting a coral glow/banana male het clowns,
    breed to clown females and shoot for banana/coral glow clowns. I think they are one of
    THE best looking BPs out there right now, but that's me.

    Breed what you like, because all the varieties of BPs out there have their own following.

    good luck
  • 05-25-2014, 12:30 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Your post makes no sense...

    Best Mid Range morphs to invest in? << Indicates you're looking to make some money...

    Not looking For money, << but now it's not about money? just wondering which ones sell the best and are popular << and now we're back to making money...?

    Either breed what you personally like, or be honest about your intentions...

    maybe he is aware that you wont make money when your normal hatchlings sell for 20 dollars, and that you also wont make money when your hatchlings sell for 100 dollars on average when you invest in high quality equipment.

    maybe he thinks that the second way of not making money is better because while there are no profits, cashflow is higher and selling them is easier and more fun.

    i see no contradiction. dont we all love it when an expensive hobby at least partially pays for itself? if you get a few hundred dollars every now and then, and invest it in equipment upgrades and nice new morphs, meaning you put the money back into the hobby, you are still not making any money.


    midrange really is hard to define. also, you can use common genes to make stuff i would consider midrange by combining them. i would start with combinations of high-quality basic genes, like fire, mojave, black pastel, YB, enchi, calico, and go for nice combos like enchi mystic potion or super fire enchi or fire super stripe.
  • 05-25-2014, 12:34 PM
    futurereptilebreeder
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythonfriend View Post
    maybe he is aware that you wont make money when your normal hatchlings sell for 20 dollars, and that you also wont make money when your hatchlings sell for 100 dollars on average when you invest in high quality equipment.

    Maybe he thinks that the second way of not making money is better because while there are no profits, cashflow is higher and selling them is easier and more fun.

    I see no contradiction. Dont we all love it when an expensive hobby at least partially pays for itself? If you get a few hundred dollars every now and then, and invest it in equipment upgrades and nice new morphs, meaning you put the money back into the hobby, you are still not making any money.


    Midrange really is hard to define. Also, you can use common genes to make stuff i would consider midrange by combining them. I would start with combinations of high-quality basic genes, like fire, mojave, black pastel, yb, enchi, calico, and go for nice combos like enchi mystic potion or super fire enchi or fire super stripe.





    exactly what i meant-thanks
  • 05-25-2014, 12:56 PM
    sho220
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by futurereptilebreeder View Post
    exactly what i meant-thanks

    So you just want to make a hobby out of selling snakes? And it doesn't matter what morph as long as they are popular and sell easily?

    Usually the folks who are into it for reasons other than money breed what they like, not what other people tell them to breed because they're popular or sell well...
  • 05-25-2014, 01:02 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Depends what you are expecting.
    There really isn't an answer to your question.
    Whatever you grow out today might not be whats hot when you breed tomorrow.

    Personally I would say pastels. Then again that's a difference of opinion, I like dirty with high blushing. Also nice bright clean enchis.
  • 05-25-2014, 06:30 PM
    futurereptilebreeder
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    So you just want to make a hobby out of selling snakes? And it doesn't matter what morph as long as they are popular and sell easily?

    Usually the folks who are into it for reasons other than money breed what they like, not what other people tell them to breed because they're popular or sell well...



    No I just like all of them and dont have favorites i just wanted to think of cool morphs to buy and see which ones sell best
  • 05-25-2014, 06:57 PM
    KING JAMES
    If you have more than one snake you have a favorite. Be honest we are all in it for the money, some of us just are in it for the money to afford new snakes :D Pick something you like and do the best you can with.
  • 05-26-2014, 04:59 PM
    Gouzman
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Easy...breed the ones that you like. Then sell the ones you don't want to keep.


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  • 05-26-2014, 05:17 PM
    sho220
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KING JAMES View Post
    Be honest we are all in it for the money, some of us just are in it for the money to afford new snakes

    I only hatch one or two clutches a year...I've never figured it out, but I imagine after all the expenses were factored, I'm pretty sure I'm in the red...so mark me down for "not in it for the money"...:D
  • 05-27-2014, 02:40 AM
    Pythonfriend
    if you can get a smoking hot black pastel female, where the pattern really screams "i am a black pastel", then that is quite something. or maybe one of these goldblush mojaves, its just mojave + goldblush, not even properly proven out so far, but damn, they have some awesome optics going. or how about some excellent line of champagne.

    first things first: you have to know what you like, and why.
  • 05-27-2014, 10:26 AM
    OctagonGecko729
    Dont be afraid of saying that your in it for the money either. "In it for the money" is not mutually exclusive from "I love my animals and want to see them go to the best homes."

    Theres a lot of folks that think "In it for the money" is synonymous with a bad guy on the BOI board. In the long run this couldnt be further from the truth. The folks that are making the big bucks have top notch facilities and have found the best ways to satisfy customers. Also, from my observation the standards for keeping exotics has only risen over the years. There is a much stronger voice out there for keeping your animals correctly. If you want to satisfy customers, you'd best listen to that voice.
  • 05-27-2014, 04:18 PM
    jdhutton2000
    I define mid range as breaking even'ish...

    I agree with what most people are saying. I am about a year out from starting a breeding for leisure project, but I LOVE the Calider and will spend most my effort in producing those and bee's. Beautiful animals.

    I am not going to be in it for the profit, but I hope to get some BA snakes to keep and sell the rest to pay for the feed and electric bill. =)

    Now... fast forward a decade... I'll be in it for the love of getting a rare $30K + morph. =)
  • 05-27-2014, 04:48 PM
    Freakie_frog
    To me mid range is $500.00 -$1000.00 there is a lot to be had for that price range. Stuff that seems popular are things like Pieds, enchi combo's, Calico stuff, and pretty much anything super.
  • 05-27-2014, 05:03 PM
    bcr229
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KING JAMES View Post
    If you have more than one snake you have a favorite.

    While true, my favorite BP has less to do with the morph value (Mohave male) and more because of his personality. Unlike my other BP's who only tolerate handling to varying degrees, he will pop out of his tub, climb partway onto your arm, and just chill there.
  • 05-27-2014, 05:22 PM
    artgecko
    I'd say pieds, clowns, calicos, and agree with enchi combos too. I personally love clowns and pieds. Both are recessives, so if you could invest in visuals for both parents you wouldn't have to worry about producing hets.
  • 05-27-2014, 06:07 PM
    CORBIN911
    I would def say Pieds/Lessers/Pastels/Bumblebees would be the easy/good way for mid range.

    Who doesnt love a pied

    Who doesnt love pastel pieds!

    who doesnt love Blue eyed Lucys

    and who doesnt love bumblee/lesserbees/queenbee's/killerbees!

    all of which snakes sell for less then 600-700$ (most cases) and can produce very nice clutches (and other then pied to x ***) you wont get to many normals! without getting good Het/Duel hets!
  • 05-27-2014, 07:58 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    Who doesnt love a pied
    Who doesnt love pastel pieds!

    ;) This guy ;)
  • 05-27-2014, 09:35 PM
    CORBIN911
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    ;) This guy ;)

    Damn you sit. It was suppose to be noone!!! Hahah


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  • 05-28-2014, 10:55 AM
    jdhutton2000
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CORBIN911 View Post
    Damn you sit. It was suppose to be noone!!! Hahah


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    Yeah... Not a PIED fan.... =)
  • 05-31-2014, 01:35 PM
    Never3
    Re: Best Mid Range morphs to invest in?
    I would have to say that it would be a good idea for someone to start off with visuals first such as pastels, spiders, enchis, Mojos, etc...
    Personally, I'm a huge fan of things like the Lemon Pastel, Cinnamons, lessers, Phantoms, and Spectors. There are so many choices, that's one of the things I love about this crazy hobby of ours!
  • 08-22-2014, 03:38 PM
    pmarks
    I think that the best mid priced morph right now is a banana/coral glow - hands down. They are just breath taking. I just got one for a great price and I have not been able to take my eyes off of him. They have dropped in price significantly but that does not change their beauty. In fact it allows more of us to own these once extremely expensive animals. Just my .02
  • 08-22-2014, 04:28 PM
    alan12013
    There are so many morphs that look great without adding Pied to it. In most cases adding Pied doesn't make it more appealing to me at all.
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