Thinking about getting into hognoses!

Like the title says! Lol (western hognoses specifically)
I've never kept colubrids before so I'm a noob. I've done basic research on them but still have some questions.

How big do males and females have to be to be considered "breeding size" ?

And how long on average does it take the males and females to get to breeding size?


What are your opinions on hogs? So far from what I can tell, I'll love them :P

I swear it's seemed like our hoggie hasn't grown in forever, but he has. I can't help with breeding size, but they are adorable and definitely have little personalities! They'll huff and puff and think they're all tough.

Love them!

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Originally Posted by Trackstrong83

Like the title says! Lol (western hognoses specifically)
I've never kept colubrids before so I'm a noob. I've done basic research on them but still have some questions.

How big do males and females have to be to be considered "breeding size" ?

And how long on average does it take the males and females to get to breeding size?


What are your opinions on hogs? So far from what I can tell, I'll love them :P

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I cant tell ya the breeding stuff cause i dunno off the top of the head.

I know females get bigger than males.

Ive had mine for 5 days and she is a pretty funny snake.
Courious and friendly then if she gets spooked shes a hissy headbutter.

I was only planning on having one just for fun but i might get more at some point.

Id get one dude

Good info on this site and it cover some on breeding.

http://extremehogs.com/Caresheet.html

Breeding size-females 250 gram minimum with 300 gram the best and males 60 grams----ExtremeHogs.com

As far as growth rate i've had mine for 6 months from a baby till now 5 grams to 38 grams if that's any indication.

As far as opinion mine is the goofiest and neatest snake i own lol. My wife thinks he hates her though cause he starts his tough guy act every time she gets close :D

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How big do males and females have to be to be considered "breeding size" ?

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Males 45 to 60 grams, Females 250 grams

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And how long on average does it take the males and females to get to breeding size?

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Males reach that size in their first year, females take about 2 years.

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What are your opinions on hogs? So far from what I can tell, I'll love them :P

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Doesn't get much cutter then a face like this ;)

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ohognose06.jpg

So far I love what I'm seeing!!! Such little personalities :D

Love them, pretty sure we'll be adding at least one soon

sent via something from somewhere

My good friend breeds them and he's the one that got me interested in them. Might get an albino boy and a het albino girl from him just to try my hand at breeding them.

My little man is a photographer. How's that for a personality!?


http://s1.postimg.org/bmhu0jke7/photo.jpg

He seems a bit thin to me after a feeding strike. He'll get back on track.

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Originally Posted by CatandDiallo

My little man is a photographer. How's that for a personality!?


http://s1.postimg.org/bmhu0jke7/photo.jpg

He seems a bit thin to me after a feeding strike. He'll get back on track.

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Cute :D

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Originally Posted by Deborah

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Doesn't get much cutter then a face like this ;)

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ohognose06.jpg

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Originally Posted by CatandDiallo

My little man is a photographer. How's that for a personality!?


http://s1.postimg.org/bmhu0jke7/photo.jpg

He seems a bit thin to me after a feeding strike. He'll get back on track.

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You guys should get these in for HOTM unless there are better pics than these. ;)

Deb, if you have that same pic with a tongue sticking out it would melt me. :wuv:

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Originally Posted by Pyrate81

You guys should get these in for HOTM unless there are better pics than these. ;)

Deb, if you have that same pic with a tongue sticking out it would melt me. :wuv:

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Not the same pic with a tongue shot but still ;)

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ohognose02.jpg

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Not the same pic with a tongue shot but still ;)

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ohognose02.jpg

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:O Super :wuv:


This pic NEEDS submission.....or maybe the other one. Both are really good pics. I can't decide.

Females can get to breeding size in 18 months or even less. 2 years is kind of the rule of thumb though to ensure they are ready. Males, one year as stated.

Weights are pretty good - but I found my male did his best work once he reached closer to 90 grams. I put him in at 65 grams and it was really rough with no success against my 500 gram girl and my 300 grammer, but when he hit 90 he did the work great.

My girl first bred at 18 months, but slugged out - my second girl who was the 300 grammer, bred at 23 months, and just laid 9 eggs.

They are extremely forgiving, and despite the popular belief you must cool them / brumate them in order to get them to breed, I had success this year with no brumation on the female, but allowing the male to drop in temps simply because he went off food in October, and came back on food this February.

It's hard to track males growth, because they will go from 6-8 grams to 80 grams in 10 -14 months but the rate is so steady that the difference is not that noticeable. Females, when fed well weekly, will get a noticeable growth. I'll try and post some before and after pics of my kiddos later. Here's an oldie but a goodie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ogzP1s1IXs

It cracks me up how we are talking about 90 grams and 300 being breeding size lol I'm so used to BPs where the numbers are 800 and 1500:rofl:

I have my hogs!!!! I'll post pictures in another thread tomorrow. They're such cool little snakes :D