Opionion of offensive videos WOBP are promoting please

What do you all think of the offensive videos on World of Ball Pythons? Specifically the "Mojo TV" videos. I normally enjoy watching the videos on that site with my nephews (age ranges 8-12). I start to watch the latest "Mojo TV" video and in the first 20 seconds the "N" word is stated, as well as the "P" word typically used as a slang term for the female genitalia. If you can't figure out what I mean head over to WOBP and check it out. Not only is there offensive language, but the guy is making "gangster bang bang" signals, smoking and drinking. I'll be the first to say we should all live the lives we want. If you want to drink and smoke and listen to that type of music, go for it. But don't put it in an "educational" video about the hobby. Not to mention the information provided in the video was horrible. Would you sit there and watch that video with your children?

So what do you guys think? Should the WOBP videos be "NSFW?" I sent WOBP and email and never got a response. I also sent a FB message with no reply. Is this where this hobby is going? :(

If you agree feel free to let them know. If I'm in the wrong let me know that too, I'm open to hear all opinions.

Not sure if they actually think they are being cool or if its a joke. Either way it just comes off as odd/awkward. Completely inappropriate for an "educational" website.


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Not only is the music awful but the guys give me a bad vibe. Really doesn't give me a passionate hobby feel but more like they're "snake pimps" rolling in the dough. Degrading to the hobby if you ask me...

When did ball pythons get all gansta? Did I say that right?

happens all the time. people want to make their videos more interesting, but completely screw it up. yes they are trying to be cool, and they fail really badly.

what a trainwreck of a video.

I can't watch the vids from where I'm at right now, but that does sound extremely inappropriate. Sad if it is dropping to that level because even with a few mistakes here and there on the site, it's still been one of the better reference sites around. I honestly thought when I first started reading your post that maybe someone had hacked the site and put up a vid like that, but I'm guessing that's not the case.

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Originally Posted by John1982

When did ball pythons get all gansta? Did I say that right?

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No, you forgot the g, its Gangsta!

But I agree. Totally gives off a really bad vibe and gives good owners/breeders a bad name.

I just can't wait until they run out of things to talk about and stop making videos. Although I support rap music anyone with common sense would know that putting songs with all of those curses in an "educational" video is idiotic. I followed them on instagram for a while too until I got tired of the posts with stacks of money and stupidity about the "ball game" making them rich. Half of their videos arent even educational "look at this pinstripe banana, I put this pinstripe and this banana together and who wouldve guessed this guy came out!" Stfu already and leave the videos to the guys that knkw what theyre talking about and make sense

Thank you all. I was hoping I was not the only one who was put off by this video. Why do they allow him to post these videos. I can barely watch more than thirty seconds of it. They need to ban this :rolleye2:. His videos have no substance what so ever. Talk about a total waste of time. I have to turn the volume down because the so call music if I would call it that is totally wrong.

I'm guessing the site gets paid to "feature" their videos? Has anybody else voiced their opinion to WOBP?

I'll have to watch it when I get off work tonight. I know John of JD constrictors posted something on FB earlier. I didn't know who he was talking about till this thread. Like john said, that kind of language looks really bad on your business. Conduct yourself professionally and don't burn yourself by putting off potential customers.

Like Forest Gump says stupid is what stupid does.

Just watched another of their videos. What an embarrassment, makes me appreciate what Brian is doing with snake bytes tv that much more.


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Hi,

Not every forum or website pays a lot of attention and or to a family friendly atmosphere. That's their right and entirely their own decision.

But it's important to us - which is why we sometimes seem a bit hard on people about language and linked content. :oops:

There are parts of the internet I wouldn't want to expose any child of mine to but, in the end, everyone will have different limits for their own children.

I hope we always lean on the side of caution and people feel they can trust us not to let anything too bad slip through - but if you do see something you consider offensive on here please contact any member of staff and they will take care of it. :please:


dr del

I can't even picture the hip hop / rap like even going into the life of a breeder or a video... Yes, I listen to rap music and that type of stuff, but I don't go putting it in videos and educational sites... This guy has got to be one of the most ridiculous people even in the hobby.. WOW!

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I really do not like that video either or think it should have been promoted, although I can listen to some rap. That is not something that should be put on a educational video.

I also agree that dudes videos overall are just plain bad.

Alright I watched it. Just wow. Yeah I'll happily take my money elsewhere. Too many quality and professional ball pythons breeders to bother with the ones that aren't. I learned absolutely nothing from that video. Plus the music was horrible, especially with the cussing, the acting like gangsters and pretending to roll in the riches from their snakes, while sipping wine and poorly talking about things most breeders already know is pretty distasteful. I'm fine with them talking about the simple lethal combos but it was just horribly scripted and no detail to it. What a poor example of the hobby. It'll be interesting to see how much this hurts their business. I can't imagine anyone coming out with a positive impression of their business. I've seen "amateur" videos (for example I love Slitherin Sisters videos) that I really enjoy and that are funny. This just no. They just come off as kids playing in snake breeding.

I've seen their videos. I'm just hoping its a clumsy attempt at satire.


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I think the owner of WOBP should review videos before they get published, because that makes that site look bad

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I think the owner of WOBP should review videos before they get published, because that makes that site look bad

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I've sent them an email using their "contact" form on their site. According to whoever answered my on FB stated it was never received... Pretty convenient. They still haven't answered my question on FB either. It looks like they stand behind the video. Pretty sad if you ask me.

as somebody previously mentioned, it is their personal right to put out a video with whatever material they see fit. We may not like it but it is still their right. With that said, I cannot stand this guy. I think he's a clown, and even worse he has no idea what he's talking about. I especially can't stand the way he uses the word genetic. 90 percent of the time he uses this word it should be genes or gene. Not only does he not know what he's talking about he speaks very poor English and he has no message to convey. People have referred to this as an educational video, and for the life of me I can't understand on what level anything in any of these videos might be considered educational. I would have bothered to say something, except these guys don't seem to care. Their attitude is if you don't like it don't watch. They absolutely have a point that it's their right to put these videos out there and it's my right not to watch. From here on out, I'm pretty sure I'll exercise that right

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Haven't watched yet, but from what everyone says it sounds eerily similar to videos of "pit bull breeders" that I have ever seen... Trying to convey the "thug" image to move their stock and make the animals seem more "gangsta", etc. and we've all seen how good pit bull owners have to deal with that stereotype. That's all we need as snake keepers... To have to fight a thug image as well as the fear most folks have of snakes. *sigh*

It is their right to put up whatever they want, but this definitely does not make WOBP look professional.

its just a badly done video, they tried to spice it up and make it more interesting, and that failed.

i remember a while back someone on youtube tried to do some kind of reptile news show. and the content was actually good. but he/they had the glorious idea of having the presenter do it in a full body gorilla costume, with a fake gorilla voice. it was hard to understand anything he said due to the mask and the gorilla voice. it was funny for 10 seconds, followed by 10 minutes of struggling to understand what he was saying. it was awkward, and the whole project failed.

i dont think hiphop or rap music is a problem, i think it can be used for reptile videos. people use heavy metal or hard rock in reptile videos all the time. the first mistake is that for background music, you want a piece that represents the style of music and sounds good but that does not contain lyrics. or only minimal lyrics.

using bad words / curse words also isnt necessarily bad. these words are powerful. but i dont see why you would want them in a reptile video. and throwing them around in quantity and for no good reason doesnt make sense. for example, for years "The Young Turks", the biggest news show on the internet, did not use curse words and beeped them out just like the big cable news channels do it. recently they changed their policy, and now, when some corrupt but rather powerful politician threatens with thermonuclear war or something crazy like that, they might drop the F-bomb uncensored. but i dont see how the discussion could ever get heated and emotional enough in a reptile video.


im sure its a clumsy attempt at comedy/satire or something. like they are trying too hard to get an idea to work that looked good on paper, but turned out to be a bad idea.

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I've sent them an email using their "contact" form on their site. According to whoever answered my on FB stated it was never received... Pretty convenient. They still haven't answered my question on FB either. It looks like they stand behind the video. Pretty sad if you ask me.

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Wow. That is some trashy talk and music. I didn't even watch the whole video because I found the first few minutes to be very offensive. This is not the way to teach the younger generation. I don't mind some rap music but I don't really listen to any of it if it has that kind of language in it.

There are a few things here:

WOBP - I don't think they should have to screen every single video that shows up on the feed. If someone has a proven video that's moderately well put together and content-focused on ball pythons I think it has every right to be there. It may be in bad taste according to some people, but that's a matter of opinion. Overall I can see a reason why they would censor a specific video due to excessive cursing, maybe. This is the internet though...

Mojo TV - I think they have every right to make their videos however they want. Is it in bad taste? Again, a matter of opinion. I would argue bad taste in some of the other 'big name' videos though as they occasionally do things like make sexist comments, taunt animals to bite at employees and have a laugh (stressing the animals we care about in a video is bad taste in my opinion), feeding videos (bad taste in my opinion), and the list goes on and on.

As a reptile community, overall we are not the most politically correct crowd. I would say some of the culturally distasteful elements being highlighted on this particular video are not more damaging than some of the culturally distasteful elements on other videos where they play screaming death metal, act like jackasses, etc.

Bottom line for me is this is the internet. Nobody is forcing you to partake. WOBP promises no specific family-friendly atmosphere on their site. I'm sure there is a comparable "World of Bald ________" which uses the same language being chastised here and offers up much more culturally distasteful content. Go whine about something else. A rap song intro to an educational video (the content there IS helpful and IS informative) should be the least of your concerns.


Respectfully, my 2 cents.

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There are a few things here:

WOBP - I don't think they should have to screen every single video that shows up on the feed. If someone has a proven video that's moderately well put together and content-focused on ball pythons I think it has every right to be there. It may be in bad taste according to some people, but that's a matter of opinion. Overall I can see a reason why they would censor a specific video due to excessive cursing, maybe. This is the internet though...

Mojo TV - I think they have every right to make their videos however they want. Is it in bad taste? Again, a matter of opinion. I would argue bad taste in some of the other 'big name' videos though as they occasionally do things like make sexist comments, taunt animals to bite at employees and have a laugh (stressing the animals we care about in a video is bad taste in my opinion), feeding videos (bad taste in my opinion), and the list goes on and on.

As a reptile community, overall we are not the most politically correct crowd. I would say some of the culturally distasteful elements being highlighted on this particular video are not more damaging than some of the culturally distasteful elements on other videos where they play screaming death metal, act like jackasses, etc.

Bottom line for me is this is the internet. Nobody is forcing you to partake. WOBP promises no specific family-friendly atmosphere on their site. I'm sure there is a comparable "World of Bald ________" which uses the same language being chastised here and offers up much more culturally distasteful content. Go whine about something else. A rap song intro to an educational video (the content there IS helpful and IS informative) should be the least of your concerns.


Respectfully, my 2 cents.

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I absolutely think they should have to screen the videos they post on their site. While yes they have the right to post what they want, it doesn't mean there wont be negative repercussions. Everyone has the right to tell their boss to shove it, in turn most likely they will be out of a job. The same way I imagine few people will want to buy animals from these guys after seeing how they conduct themselves. We can talk about "opinions" all day. Those videos are loaded with racial and sexist material, and put the hobby in a bad light.


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I wonder where they got their information? I also wonder why he skipped over the power ball and champ x spider? also I have never heard of any confirmed super womas.

This is a very difficult subject for me because of how long I made videos for and how much effort I know goes into making a quality video so I can only imagine how difficult it must be for these guys to read a thread like this.
That all being said I think that they should be allowed to use whatever style they want to, that's their right, we don't have to watch and we don't have to follow (I personally like the guys but I don't like the style of video, they asked me so I let them know, I didn't say to change it, just said I didn't like it). If what they are doing is not your cup of tea then don't watch. I do believe there should be a language warning at the beginning of each video so that if there's kids around or you are offended by that sort of thing you can make your decision on watching or not before it's too late.

No one is saying they don't have a right to make whatever videos they want. What people are saying is it is very unprofessional and looks bad on their business. I've never heard of these guys until watching this video. That's a pretty bad first impression. Saying we don't have to watch it is very true, but when you're putting videos up with your business name on them, you should be striving to make videos that aren't going to drive away your customer base.

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No one is saying they don't have a right to make whatever videos they want. What people are saying is it is very unprofessional and looks bad on their business. I've never heard of these guys until watching this video. That's a pretty bad first impression. Saying we don't have to watch it is very true, but when you're putting videos up with your business name on them, you should be striving to make videos that aren't going to drive away your customer base.

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I agree 100%

Let's see if after all this pushback they actually change the tone of the videos

If it isn't acceptable behavior for a day with grandma its not acceptable! :)

Hi,

Mojo videos are for now hidden on WOB, they will be shown again if author changes tone or writes some kind of notice about language just like Raphy suggested.

Us on WOB have a very big task everyday, to not be political, because its a site for everybody.
We have rules for our pictures, and some people think their pictures are rejected because they are not big breeders, this is NEVER the case, we just want good pictures.

On videos we havent set up any rules, than it should be related to ball pythons. ( and just so everybody knows, we dont get any payment for show videos ).
In my opinion a video that youtube hasn't removed should be good enough.

We are from Denmark, and I think we have another mindset / view here than most americans, and that can give some problems.
So when this many people have a problem with this, then we have to take action, and the videos are disabled on the site for now.

We are always ready to talk on mail or facebook messages. So just write if you have some questions.

Have a nice weekend !

Thomas
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Their videos "suck"! I don't even bother watching.http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-score001.gif

Weird!

If you take the music, language and whatever else that gets some huffy puffy it's still a bad video. Some people just can't mix sugar and kool-aid together

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If you take the music, language and whatever else that gets some huffy puffy it's still a bad video. Some people just can't mix sugar and kool-aid together

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I agree, it's not the music and the language that I have a problem. It's the fact that the videos are not very good anyway.

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