Need serious breeding help :(

I'm going mad! My black pastel male is 7-8 months, weighs 600-700g, and He's producing sperm. BUT he's not interested in the ladies at ALL and my females aren't interest in my male!!!! So this brings me down to a few heavy questions:

1. Yes all are sexed properly! So what should I do?

2. How do I get them interested? I tried the misting more and the shed of another breeding male.

3. How do I get virgin females to breed?

4. Does cooling really play that big of an impact?

5. One female is expected to lay every august (first year owning her) and I've been trying to pair her up since last month. No luck at all

Please I need advice from you experienced breeders :/





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Why is "One Female expected to lay every August"? Wait till a storm is coming in, that usely gets mine going!

just because a male has the size and age, doesn't mean the he will breed. he may not have any interest until next breeding season. this happens and happens a lot. I have 2 males right now showing no signs that they want to breed. I know the females are ready to breed, using an ultrasound. it happens. are your females showing any signs of building?

Temps play a pretty important part of breeding. Keep rotating and he will eventually kick right in. drop the hotspots a couple degrees over a week or two and you should definitely begin to see some interest.

Thank you everyone! First breeder so I'm still getting used to everything--not a new owner though ;)

ROACH-her previous breeder said she lays every august so I'm expecting her to lay then. Lol a storm? Hmm interesting lol :)

Don15681-ah gotcha, though everyone says he will kick in soon :/ I don't see any signs in the females yet...maybe in my black back if being more grouchy counts lol.

Coopers Constrictors-I'm upgrading to a C Serpent rack tomorrow and it comes with a thermostat so I'll be able to control my heat better. I'll certainly start the cooling process and see how it goes though!






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He's right, a drop in barometric pressure with advancing storms can be a major catalyst for breeding. Works quite often in my experience. I'd keep them separate and watch the weather forecast and pair them the day before a rainstorm. Not sure fire and unfortunately sometimes they just won't go. I've had several males go dormant this season, happens every year. And my severe case was my Lav-Albino PH Dream. She took five years, never once locking or showing any interest in the Double Het male. Almost gave up, but this season I started her a couple months early and recorded -18- locks. Go figure. Mother nature holds all the cards, so be patient, they'll go eventually. Good luck.

Thank you fatSNAKEs, some valuable info :)


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Thunder storms and weather changes are great kick starts.
Temp drops are not needed................

I love in Florida so next month is when the daily thunderstorms start happening so maybe I'll have some luck next month :)


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My queen bee was like that. He was with the ladies and had no interest in breeding. My back up kingpin that I decided to use in case the queen wasn't up for the challenge had no problems locking with the females. I let him lock 2 of the girls just once and as soon as he was done I took him away. I put the queenbee in with the 2 females and it was like a switch was turned on. He has been a locking champ ever since. Now I just hope he has the lucky bullets and not the king.
So just give him a couple days in with each girl and then a break for some R&R.
And I totally agree with Roach. Wait for a nice storm. That tends to get them in the mood.

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Originally Posted by Scirlygirl

I'm going mad! My black pastel male is 7-8 months, weighs 600-700g, and He's producing sperm. BUT he's not interested in the ladies at ALL and my females aren't interest in my male!!!! So this brings me down to a few heavy questions:

1. Yes all are sexed properly! So what should I do?

2. How do I get them interested? I tried the misting more and the shed of another breeding male.

3. How do I get virgin females to breed?

4. Does cooling really play that big of an impact?

5. One female is expected to lay every august (first year owning her) and I've been trying to pair her up since last month. No luck at all

Please I need advice from you experienced breeders :/

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6. Trio with a horny male.

Haha thanks guys! :)


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Originally Posted by Scirlygirl

I'm going mad! My black pastel male is 7-8 months, weighs 600-700g, and He's producing sperm. BUT he's not interested in the ladies at ALL and my females aren't interest in my male!!!! So this brings me down to a few heavy questions:

1. Yes all are sexed properly! So what should I do?

2. How do I get them interested? I tried the misting more and the shed of another breeding male.

3. How do I get virgin females to breed?

4. Does cooling really play that big of an impact?

5. One female is expected to lay every august (first year owning her) and I've been trying to pair her up since last month. No luck at all

Please I need advice from you experienced breeders :/





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Just because he has the size and is capable of breeding, he may just not have the drive to breed yet, some males just take longer to get everything figured out than others.

It may also that one of the two animals is turned off by the other, pair them up with different male/females and they may both start breeding...it happens.

Since you said you know he's producing sperm, if that also means you know how to squeeze sperm plugs out of a male, get that out of another male and smear it on the females tail.

Misting them can help, but a nice drop in the barometer and a real storm is better.

Cooling isn't important, if you research different methods of breeding ball pythons (and there are plenty of ways to shoe this horse) you'll find out that there are a lot of breeders who never touch their temps all year and are very successful.

As for the every august girl, I imagine most females take a year off occasionally, if you've aquired her since last breeding season, it's also not uncommon for females to skip the first year they move to a new environment. Balls can be really quirky sometimes, especially when it comes to settling into a new home. If she lays consistantly in august though, she may just not be ready yet, looking at a calendar and backing up from there, it looks like late may/early june would be her prime time for being bred.

I am going to go ahead and state the obvious. These guys breed when THEY are ready. Not when we THINK they should. It's all part of owning and breeding. You can do everything right, follow every rule, hit every detail, play romantic music, give them candlelight dinners and wine, even put snake porn on the tv in their room, and it still doesn't mean they'll breed.

Once you know the environment is right, just pair them on a rotating schedule. Even if they aren't locking, I pair mine once a week. Three days the male is in her tub, then he goes back to his own tub and food is offered two days later. Two days to digest, then pair again. Unless the male locks. If he locks, once they unlock, he goes back to his tub to rest, even if it's only been one day. Most of mine aren't locking right now, even though this is my third season. So there isn't much to do but wait them out.

Gale

In my experience, most of my males haven't wanted to breed until their second year. Out of our eight males, only two decided to breed their first year. Having that problem with my super fire at the moment, actually. And I've tried all the voodoo juju in the book to try to get them to do the deed. They just go when they're ready. It's funny though. Their second season, all of our boys have been totally fired up!

I appreciate everyone's personal opinion, it makes me feel better lol!


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