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  • 04-18-2014, 12:49 PM
    RegiusConstrictors03
    Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Hello,
    i've had my ball P for 1 1/2 years and use a small container for water, a hiding spot, aspen bedding, a climbing stick, a thermometer a hydrometer all in a small rubber made tub its not crowded though. anyway I have a thermostat attatched to a heating pad and heat safe tape is taping in on the bottom it stays about 88-92 F degrees, my problem is is that the air temp. is only 77 F when it should be 85 F my question is how to get it to 85 F?! THANKS! :confusd:

    Gigi.
  • 04-18-2014, 01:02 PM
    dr del
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Hi,

    Heat pads don't really increase ambient air temps.

    You could possibly try an incandescent lamp on a dimmer switch to boost them slightly as long as you guarded it safely.
  • 04-18-2014, 01:06 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Raise the ambient temp in the room
  • 04-18-2014, 02:16 PM
    RegiusConstrictors03
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    Heat pads don't really increase ambient air temps.

    You could possibly try an incandescent lamp on a dimmer switch to boost them slightly as long as you guarded it safely.

    what if I had a rack systam how would I heat that?
  • 04-18-2014, 02:18 PM
    RegiusConstrictors03
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Raise the ambient temp in the room

    I can't because hes a pet in my room and I can't stand hot temps at night!!
  • 04-18-2014, 02:29 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    You are talking about air temp but what is the floor temp on the warm side?
  • 04-18-2014, 03:21 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Post a couple of photos of your setup so we can get a better idea what you're working with.

    Also, 85 is too hight for ambient temps. They should be around 78-82.

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  • 04-18-2014, 03:43 PM
    NH93
    Agreed. 85F is bit too warm. Even 77F doesn't sound terrible... so long as that's as low as it gets at night too. What is your room temperature at in your home? That would be the easiest solution to me; to warm up your home's temperature - even by one or 2 degrees F.
  • 04-18-2014, 05:07 PM
    artgecko
    I'm having just about the exact problem as the OP. My quarantine tub's ambient temps are too low at night (even thought the substrate temps are spot-on due to 2 UTHs on thermostats). I am considering breaking quarantine and moving the tub into my herp room that stays a few degrees warmer due to the heat lamps on the other tanks. (I know this isn't ideal, but like the OP I can't raise the room temp) or moving the tub to a location that I can use a heat lamp over.

    To the OP: You might be able to use a heat lamp on a stand..I am doing this on the large tub my boa is in. You will need either a CHE (ceramic heat emitter) or a red heat bulb for the lamp.
  • 04-19-2014, 09:28 AM
    RegiusConstrictors03
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by deborah View Post
    you are talking about air temp but what is the floor temp on the warm side?

    88 f - 92 f
  • 04-19-2014, 09:32 AM
    RegiusConstrictors03
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    Post a couple of photos of your setup so we can get a better idea what you're working with.

    Also, 85 is too hight for ambient temps. They should be around 78-82.

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  • 04-19-2014, 10:03 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RegiusConstrictors03 View Post
    88 f - 92 f

    Then you do not have a problem, 77 air temp is perfectly within acceptable range.
  • 04-19-2014, 10:25 AM
    RegiusConstrictors03
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Then you do not have a problem, 77 air temp is perfectly within acceptable range.

    cool, that good! (i'll post pics anyway!)
  • 04-22-2014, 04:21 PM
    Gouzman
    Re: Heating problems, HELP PLEASE !
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gouzman View Post
    I have recently started keeping ball pythons. So far I have a pastel male about four months old at 250 grams, a normal female about two months old at 100 grams and a spider female about four months old at 120 g.

    I am keeping them all in their own terrarium and using an UTH on one side of the enclosure, and I have taped a piece of cardboard over the UTH then laid down newspaper over the floor of the entire enclosure then finally I have used coconut husk as the bedding in the tank, so there is no real risk of the snakes getting stuck on the tape as it is buried way down below layers of substrate.

    I was running the UTH 24/7 with no thermostat to automatically control the temps. I had a probe thermostat setup in each tank with the probe setup in the middle of each enclosure, up in the air, not lying on the ground. So in effect I was measuring the ambient air temperature in each enclosure. The ambient air temperature was varying in the region of 82 - 86 degrees. Now I know that in effect this needs to be the temperature on the hot side of the tank, so for interest sake I placed the temperature probe under the hide, directly on top of the coconut husk. The temperature in each hide is now fluctuating between 100 and 118 degrees! When I would put my hand on the husk above the UTH it would be warm to the touch, but not hot enough to burn anything.

    I have now switched to controlling the temperatures automatically, and have the hot hides reading temperatures of 82 - 86 degrees.

    Here are my concerns :

    This drop in hot spot temperature is obviously going to drop the ambient air temperature inside the enclosure.

    All of my snakes seemed to stay mostly on the cold side of the tank in their hides.

    All of my snakes have been eating healthily, shedding properly and pooping properly while I had the probes measuring the ambient air temprature. ( in the middle of the enclosure, up in the air)

    But now after much reading about the correct temperatures recommendations I have made the changes. Will this affect their behavior?

    Where do you measure your temps with your snakes? Do you leave the probe lying on the substrate, as effectively this is where your snake will be in contact with the heat source? Or do you have it in the air on the hot side of the tank?

    Since making the temperature adjustments the substrate directly about the UTH does not feel as warm to the touch.

    Any theories or practices anyone might have, would be gratefully appreciated :)

    This is Keith, my pastel male:

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/22/asazere7.jpg

    This is Holly my normal female

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/22/y9e7y8y5.jpg

    And this is Lily my spider female.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/22/3y3amaqa.jpg

    Here is the type of enclosure I am talking about. The hide on the right is the hot hide and the one on the left is the cold hide. I have also put a hide sort of inbetween for just in case that's what they fancy.

    .http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/22/za7ava3e.jpg


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