New pick up - Unknown morph

I picked this handsome, insanely reduced and striped boy up for 75 usd. He was so cheap because the people who had him knew he is a morph, but didn't remember what he is. He is about 3 years old. I believe he is a pastel and possibly something more, or just an insaaaanely nice pastel.

What do you people think?

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That is not a pastel, im thinking vanilla?

Reduced pattern pastel, the reduced pattern part of it may or may not be genetic.

Agree it's a pretty nice pastel - green eyes are a giveaway.

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Originally Posted by kylearmbar

That is not a pastel, im thinking vanilla?

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I was thinking about that too, but the body is too yellow and he doesn't have the head stamp mark.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Reduced pattern pastel, the reduced pattern part of it may or may not be genetic.

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Hoping it's genetic, he could make some darn nice bumblebees with those reduced patterns :D

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Originally Posted by MrLang

Agree it's a pretty nice pastel - green eyes are a giveaway.

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My thoughts exactly, that's why I've looked at pastel (+?). Someone said pastel specter is a possibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a0HMiN3n_A

Here is a video of pastel specters being hatched, and at least one of them have the same markings.

Hmm I didn't think of a combo... I was thinking only one cuz I was sure they would know if it had two morph genes.



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Originally Posted by kylearmbar

Hmm I didn't think of a combo... I was thinking only one cuz I was sure they would know if it had two morph genes.

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Don't be so sure, they we're into cornsnakes but didn't know anything about ball pythons. The guy I got it from, his son got it for free from someone that knew their friend or something like that. All they remembered is that it have some kind of morph, that it's not a normal, and that he is about 3 years old now.

Also, with some amateur breeders, specter, vanilla, fire and some other morphs sometimes being mistaken for normals, and a bunch of imported animals...yeah you get it.

I am positive it's a pastel at least, and then I'm just open for the idea that he either has a genetic reduced pattern, or some other, not so obvious morph that makes the reduced pattern.

Edit: And my spelling sucks today it seems.

He looks like a desert to me but I really wouldn't know how to go about differentiating a desert from other morphs without breeding. Maybe someone else is more experienced with them

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He looks like a desert to me but I really wouldn't know how to go about differentiating a desert from other morphs without breeding. Maybe someone else is more experienced with them

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I really hope he isn't :/ Then it's a dead end breeding wise. His eyes however seem way to green for a desert, and his pattern isn't as crisp clean as I would think a desert should be.

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Originally Posted by bunnykit

I really hope he isn't :/ Then it's a dead end breeding wise. His eyes however seem way to green for a desert, and his pattern isn't as crisp clean as I would think a desert should be.

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A desert male is not dead end breeding wise....

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I picked this handsome, insanely reduced and striped boy up for 75 usd. He was so cheap because the people who had him knew he is a morph, but didn't remember what he is. He is about 3 years old. I believe he is a pastel and possibly something more, or just an insaaaanely nice pastel.

What do you people think?

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...24250510_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...30360007_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...71477409_n.jpg

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he looks nothing like my desert

He's not a Desert. Looks like a very nice reduced pattern Pastel.

BTW, Several morphs can have green eyes...so can Normals.

To dull to be desert. Deserts are brighter
Heres a pic of my desert enchi see how brite he ishttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/u4e9u7am.jpg

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I honestly do not see pastel at all. There is no brown out line... might be my phone or something but I really do not see pastel.

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Lets see a belly shot.

That's a beautiful snake. I'm going for a 50/50 chance of Pastel or Reduced Pattern. There's only one way to find out. Breed him or her to a normal to break down genetics. Good luck.

I'd say pastel all the way, and a very nice one!

I thought a nice reduced pattern normal. I must be rusty, with everyone saying pastel.


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Ok so every pastel I have seen with size on them no matter how stellar has a brown out line. This one has none. Not a pastel. I do however think it is something. Based off of the head stamp and extreme green of the eyes I would say this is a spider combo of some sort.

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