Genetic Markers

Hi Gang, I recently got a female pastel that was from a ghost and clown. Are there any markers to tell weather or not the gene got past? I am not sure but what I have been looking into and might just be a luck thing, and would have to seen when I breed her. Any info would help.

What was the actual pairing (or more specific than clown and ghost)? And pics of said female?

I don't know anything about the pair other than the morph was showing on both parents. How can I get pics on here?

You can upload them to photobucket then paste the IMG code here: where did the pastel gene come from or were the parents multi-gene? I'd ask for clarification so we can better help you.

Ok I will see where I can find photobucket. that kind of stuff is like a foreign language to me. but as far as the backround on the female...sorry that's all I have. I didn't pay much so I guess I will just have to prove her or least have a few pastels for sale.

Het clown can often be visual.
Usually it brightens up the morphs and influences the pattern a bit.


Here's my Pastel Lesser. She's 66% het clown hypo on paper, but I'm pretty sure she'll prove out.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps256cb98c.jpg

ok it took forever but I finely figured out how to get a pic on photobucket...yay me! now can someone help me and tell me a step by step on how to get the pic here??

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Originally Posted by blk02ssmonte

ok it took forever but I finely figured out how to get a pic on photobucket...yay me! now can someone help me and tell me a step by step on how to get the pic here??

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Click on the picture.
It will show a box to the right that says "Links to Share this Photo".
Copy the IMG link into the forum post.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ps0bdaa9cf.jpg

Ok I think I did it let me know.


[URL=http://s328.photobucket.com/user/blk02ssmonte1/media/20140309_135720_resized_zps3fd19bf7.jpg.html

Here ya gohttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/yby5ynyh.jpg

Looks like a normal?

yep, looks normal. but then, the thing with hets is, they can look normal.

EDIT: but i read its also supposed to be a pastel. so in total, pastel double het ghost clown. but i dont see pastel. and if the breeder gets THAT wrong.... i guess i would run.


http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps3fd19bf7.jpg

No pastel there unfortunately

ok no problem still will be my first breeding attempt. What do you look for to tell on a pastel? are there obvious traits? I am basically new to this. Only about 6 months in.

well I got the link right to see but how to you actually put a pic in the thread? Sorry for bunch of off topic questions but I don't know how to do it.

This is my pastel female: http://daybreakerexotics.weebly.com/telly.html

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...ps1bae319d.jpg

How to ID a pastel vs normal: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...?144651-Pastel

For pasting a photo to show up in the thread you paste the IMG code, you just pasted in incompletely so it didn't show up correctly (it should show "URL" on each end of the address)

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ok no problem still will be my first breeding attempt. What do you look for to tell on a pastel? are there obvious traits? I am basically new to this. Only about 6 months in.

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pastels have a lot of yellow when they are young. as they get older, they brown out a bit, but especially the lighter areas of the pattern will stay much brighter than in a normal. then there are also flames coming up from the belly, and the head looks different.

the problem is when its advertised as a pastel + het hypo + het clown, and its not even pastel, then there is a good chance that its all made up and its just a normal. unfortunately people often make stuff up to make their normals sound more interesting. such inconsistencies often are what gives it away. it should at least look like a pastel, and it clearly does not look like a pastel. thats a really big red flag, i would forget about this one and move on. maybe, for your first purchases, it would be better if you stay away from hets and buy BPs where everything that is in it is clearly visible. at least until you know which breeders you can really trust when it comes to hets.

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well I got the link right to see but how to you actually put a pic in the thread? Sorry for bunch of off topic questions but I don't know how to do it.

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the key is that you need a link that leads directly to the image file. which means it has .jpg at the end, not .http or anything else. when you put the link into your browser, you only get that image. no frame, no html stuff, nothing else. there are different ways to get the direct link, if there is no button to retrieve the link, then i always view the sourcecode of the website and locate it there. with the right link its easy, just click "insert image" and put the link in there.

heres quite a few, you can see what they all have in common http://owalreptiles.com/picturesnew.php?t=1&n=7

also a pastel double het clown hypo female would be over a thousand dollar snake.

Here is my collection. Now I am curious about the others since the one is a normal. What are thoughts. Pics are a Bee, Fire/spider, Pied, and another I was told a Pastel.

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l330/blk02ssmonte1/20140323_204920_resized1_zpsd78ee086.jpg
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l330/blk02ssmonte1/20140323_204633_resized_zpsceccaa28.jpg
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l330/blk02ssmonte1/20140323_205856_resized_zpsb7206efe.jpg
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l...psb9d67aae.jpg

I see a pied, normal (no pastel), can't say for sure if that's a fire spider or just a regular spider, and a bee

im no expert. but the pied is clearly a pied. and i also see a bumble bee and something quite similar to a bumble bee but still different. thats probarbly the fire spider, i dont know that combo very well but its definitively more than just a spider.

the last one could very well be a pastel.

but i think others need to chime in on the fire spider and the pastel.

i have to say its a nice little collection :)