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Snakes outside
Looking for multiple opinions on the subject of taking your pet BP outside to crawl around.. Obviously keeping a mindful eye and not in the dead of winter..lol..just wonder if it would be stressful,change habits or whatever.. Just a general question to see what comes up
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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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By outside you mean in your backyard? In public places?
In your backyard? Yes but remember not everyone like snakes and all it takes is one nosy neighbor to end up with problems . So keep that in mind if you do.
Public places? Absolutely NOT, people should not be subjected to your snakes, snake keepers are already under attack pretty much everywhere, there is no need to throw oil on the fire.
I take pictures of my animals outdoor in the summer but I live on 4 acres and have total privacy otherwise I would not do it.
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I take some of mine to pet stores on very rare occasion in the summer. My male yellow anaconda mainly. They are actually received very well. Even by people that hate snakes. They hear "ANACONDA" and it peaks their curiosity, to see someone holding a "man-eater" and not being hurt lol.
Most people had that "well he's very cool but still not for me, beautiful snake tho!" Answer in the end, but those are the same people that said "OMG let's get outta here there's a snake!" In the beginning.
But now that my collection has grown to where it is, and don't bring em outside unless it's on my property behind the big wall lol. Too much to loose if a neighbor decides to throw a fit because he lives next to the "crazy snake guy!"
I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
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As a Floridian, I don't want my neighbors to think I'm the guy responsible for throwing all those Burms in the Everglades...
This is also a college town. Lots of Gainesville Hippie PETA types who take just enough time out from baking their special brownies to remind me that they know what's best for me :rolleyes:
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In the summer time I sometimes let them slither around in the backyard it's fenced in so privacy isn't an issue. I think every once in a while it's nice to let your snake feel the sun and feel actual earth under their belly. They probably don't mind that much but idk lol.
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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby
I take some of mine to pet stores on very rare occasion in the summer. My male yellow anaconda mainly. They are actually received very well. Even by people that hate snakes. They hear "ANACONDA" and it peaks their curiosity, to see someone holding a "man-eater" and not being hurt lol.
Most people had that "well he's very cool but still not for me, beautiful snake tho!" Answer in the end, but those are the same people that said "OMG let's get outta here there's a snake!" In the beginning.
But now that my collection has grown to where it is, and don't bring em outside unless it's on my property behind the big wall lol. Too much to loose if a neighbor decides to throw a fit because he lives next to the "crazy snake guy!"
I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
The other day I was in a petstore and saw someone with a ball python, out of curiosity I asked if they had just picked it up, they said no... I wasn't exactly thrilled with them because it was probably below ten degrees that day
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We dont take a chance. I hardly take them out of their cozy little snake room. We experienced RI in the beginning of our career and dont plan on it anymore. Taking them outside and letting them crawl around could also pick up unwanted bugs,parasites, or illness from whatever they might come in contact with. We invested too much in our collection to take a risk so our snakes are sheltered! Haha.
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Originally Posted by Deborah
By outside you mean in your backyard? In public places?
In your backyard? Yes but remember not everyone like snakes and all it takes is one nosy neighbor to end up with problems . So keep that in mind if you do.
Public places? Absolutely NOT, people should not be subjected to your snakes, snake keepers are already under attack pretty much everywhere, there is no need to throw oil on the fire.
I take pictures of my animals outdoor in the summer but I live on 4 acres and have total privacy otherwise I would not do it.
Well now I see the reason for the popcorn eating emote.
I have to disagree 110%.
Public space is public space and each and every one of us are a part of that public.
That said, there is absolutely no reason to "be a d***" about sharing public space with others and your snakes.
Keep in mind some people have genuine phobias. Respect this and do not make light of this affliction.
A local reptile group here has informal plans to exhibit our pets in public parks when the weather is suitable. A sort of respectful counter to main stream media biased reporting if you will.
I am a co-founder of a rather unpopular human rights group and my experience there has taught me much.
One being that you cannot let ignorance go unchallenged. If you engage people in a friendly manner and are respectful, you can bring many around to a more open minded view where they may not agree with you 100% but, they will give you a fair chance to make your argument and give it due consideration. This simply does not happen if you cower in your herp room and hope no one notices or comes for your animals.
It never hurts to support groups like USARK or CanHerp either. Become a member or just donate, these groups need your financial support to keep working for your rights.
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Originally Posted by Slim
As a Floridian, I don't want my neighbors to think I'm the guy responsible for throwing all those Burms in the Everglades...
This is also a college town. Lots of Gainesville Hippie PETA types who take just enough time out from baking their special brownies to remind me that they know what's best for me :rolleyes:
^^^ This brings up the point of displaying clearly when in public that you are a responsible herp enthusiast. Where I live none of my pets would survive in the wild but, for some this is a big concern. The same goes for those that keep hots where legal or the giants.
We already get enough bad press. What is needed is positive public interactions.
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Originally Posted by Deborah
By outside you mean in your backyard? In public places?
In your backyard? Yes but remember not everyone like snakes and all it takes is one nosy neighbor to end up with problems . So keep that in mind if you do.
Public places? Absolutely NOT, people should not be subjected to your snakes, snake keepers are already under attack pretty much everywhere, there is no need to throw oil on the fire.
I take pictures of my animals outdoor in the summer but I live on 4 acres and have total privacy otherwise I would not do it.
Yeah. No one has yet to show that snakes get any thrill or pleasure from being subjected to new people and places - in fact, it's just the opposite. As keepers we strive to keep them as stress free and secure as possible. As far as I'm concerned, people who drape a snake around their shoulders and prance through the park or visit the local pet store are doing it for their benefit, not for the snake's.
What benefit do they get? attention, a reaction, attention and even more attention. They either get good attention or they get bad attention. The bad attention is then turned into good attention when they post on the forums just how backwards and stupid the general public is for not being as enlightened as them, and then we all nod wisely and agree. Our fingers poised over our keyboards ready for a witty reply.
Nope, no one appointed me as an ambassador from the reptile kingdom to the human kingdom- so my animals stay at home. When I am asked, via a presentation, to bring my animals in public, I do so in a controlled manner (a classroom) and only with specimens who handle the stress well.
Over the years I have had representatives of some species that are more amenable to a jaunt in the backyard than others, and some that get acclimated to an area of the yard. These are calm animals that do not bolt and do not stress easily. These animals are also very rare in collections and are the exception to the rule.
When there are pages and pages of threads on this forum alone that deal with ball pythons getting spooked off of feed just from changing substrate or coming down with ailments from being subjected to stress, why subject your animal to this?
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I would like to bring my girls out for some outdoor photos once things warm up. Other than that, I see no reason to take them out and about. I am very protective of my snakes, even taking Isabelle to the vet on Wednesday was a stressful endeavor that I don't want to attempt again in the immediate future, if I don't have to. (Granted, the temperature was a factor in that.) I trust no one, and I don't want the general public to know that I am carrying my girls with me, in the event I need to. My transport box is currently unmarked, and when I had izzy out, I was constantly watching my back for folks looking to snatch things. My biggest fear is getting my babies stolen if I have them out. Once they're out of my hands, there's no telling what someone could do with them, whether they realize they have something valuable and turn around to sell them, or freak out at first glimpse and kill them on the spot.
I trust no one in this world, especially with my most treasured possessions.
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If you enjoy letting your BP out for some fresh air, it's totally fun! They get to explore the place, and it's nice to give them a break from the monotony. I've taken mine outside a few times and he's always enjoyed it. He's never left unattended though, and I'm always a few feet away at most.
Some may argue that they can catch mites from being outside, but if you're keeping them indoors far more often than being outside, I don't see the harm in letting them explore a bit.
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