Best quallity under $400

So for a new breeder to start with the basic genes like a pastel or a spider something to start a good foundation on. Where would you guys and girls recommend for a good quality BP around $200. Not top of the line like something from NERD

male or female?

Oh sorry all females to pair up with my male fire hatched in november 2013

u can get a bunch around that price but they might not be great examples of the morph .. but u will be able to get all ur regular one gene females .. best bet is hit a show .. u will not find nothing with shipping for that price online

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So for a new breeder to start with the basic genes like a pastel or a spider something to start a good foundation on. Where would you guys and girls recommend for a good quality BP around $200. Not top of the line like something from NERD

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A NERD Pastel or Spider is no better than any others...just depends on what you like. I would worry less about the name of the breeder and focus on finding the snake that makes you go "Wow!"...then check out the breeder. If you don't think you'll run into problems buying from the big names, well...don't be so sure. There are tons of basement breeders producing some crazy cool and 100% healthy animals. And they're just as willing to stand behind their animals as the big names...and sometimes more...

If you find something you like, come here and let folks know...they'll give you the skinny on the breeder. Or you can check them out on the Board of Inquiry (BOI) at faunaclassifieds.com

And before you agree to buy anything, ask lots of questions...

Ya Im in Michigan the only show is the Taylor show and its not that great. I do go every month to support it tho. I was kinda wanting something not from Michigan, unless I go to BHB they are about 30 minutes from me then ill order something I dont mind paying extra for a little shipping.

And to get a general ballpark idea of prices, you can browse the classifieds at Kingsnake http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=32

like sho said theres a lot of great folks right on here that breed amazing animals and will work with u .. go to wanted section and post what ur looking for and someone will respond .. I think andy bill just threw up some new babys and he makes some sexy lemon blasts .. theres a bunch of folks .. look at the banners
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I think this is the best setup forum ive ever used and I will support the smaller business before i support a big company. yes ive been on fuanna but i 4got about kingsnakes.com duh im registered there I have kingsnakes but i was in ball python mode teehee.

I've had good dealings with brian from BHB, Gerick DeMeyer at royalconstrictordesigns, Exotics by Nature, constictor ulnlimited, and Kingsnake.com is another good place to go but do be careful because anybody can post and their are the RARE occasions of getting animals with health problems but the same is true for the big name breeders, just a little less likely

Build a good relationship with a breeder via email, phone, facebook, twitter, Skype, or smoke signals. The method you use is unimportant, the relationship will be priceless. Let them know your plans, your budget, and your timeline. If they don't have anything in their tubs right now that suit your needs, they hatch out clutches every season. In the end, you WANT to be the guy that a breeder calls when he or she produce a smoking Pastel, or whatever it is you're looking for.

There is nothing wrong with cruzing the shows and browsing on line (I've purchased many a BP those ways), but to be honest, the high quality animal it sounds like you're looking for often times never really hits the market. They get sold right out of the egg.

Smoke signals lmao ...

Slim is right tho real quality dont see sites and shows ... n real quality cost good money

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Ya Im in Michigan the only show is the Taylor show and its not that great. I do go every month to support it tho. I was kinda wanting something not from Michigan, unless I go to BHB they are about 30 minutes from me then ill order something I dont mind paying extra for a little shipping.

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30 minutes is not a far travel time! In my opinion :)
I drove an hour each way to get both of my snakes. If you have a warm vehicle and a nice little tub with air holes, it shouldn't be an issue.

i drove almost 2 hours for my Boa so yah i was saying its only a half hour away and brian also said i could see the scaleless so it might be worth the extra money just to touch it.

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Ok so I found from Bailley & Bailley a ♀ pastel 108 grams for $100 and a ♀ Spider het Hypo for $140. Both on a package deal for $190. He says the Spider het Hypo is genetically compatible with my OG. What do you guys and girls think. I also had about a half hour convo with him and really enjoyed it. He taught me about a Buttery Nipple:cool:

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Ok so I found from Bailley & Bailley a ♀ pastel 108 grams for $100 and a ♀ Spider het Hypo for $140. Both on a package deal for $190. He says the Spider het Hypo is genetically compatible with my OG. What do you guys and girls think. I also had about a half hour convo with him and really enjoyed it. He taught me about a Buttery Nipple:cool:

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Im pretty sure hypo(ghost) is not compatible with OG.
Straight from a ben siegel auction he posted today

" OVERTIME AUCTION-1.1 PASTEL CITRUS GHOSTS-gorgeous pair of ball pythons. This is a pastel ghost made with citrus ghost. This is not compatible with orange ghost"

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Yes Citrus ghos is NOT compatible with OG neither is a Green ghost yellow too but havent confirmed that yet. Dont know about a regular Hypo tho.

Just make sure before you spend cash. Guess i misread the auction. I read it as a citrus pastel ghost instead of a citrus ghost

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Sounds like a great deal for 2 females and Tim's animals are quality animals,
shipping and customer service are also top notch.
Going with him means no worries.
I have been dealing with him for over 3 years and never had an issue.

Its down to him, Andybill with a nice 0.1 Spinner and or spinnerblast or these guys http://www.reptilesbymack.com/ball-pythons.aspx but i cant find any reviews or anything about them. Has any1 ever delt with Mack cause hes really cheap wich kinda scares me. All my snakes and tarantulas have a name that has to do with Rock n Roll or Guitars but I dont want my spider to be a headbanger.

"Regular Hypo" *usually* means orange line compatible. If the person who produced the animal says it is orange line compatible and is reputable, then it is.