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Mya's new enclosure :)

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  • 02-11-2014, 05:40 PM
    Kat1204
    Mya's new enclosure :)
    It's all set up :)


    Waiting for LED lights and Viv lock. Then when temps n humidity satisfactory I can bring her home :)




    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...z/image-10.jpg


    Took doors off to show inside as gloomy in that corner! Popped a tree branch in to give her the option of a little climb :)


    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...gz/image-7.jpg


    Hide at cool end behind water bowl


    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...gz/image-8.jpg


    Hide at hot end (heat mat under Viv at this end)


    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...gz/image-9.jpg


    I'm quite pleased with it :)
  • 02-11-2014, 05:43 PM
    NH93
    Very pretty! Is that big cord the thermostat?
  • 02-11-2014, 06:16 PM
    Tragic Image
    Looking Good
  • 02-11-2014, 08:10 PM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Thank you.

    Yes its the mat stat. Hubby going to cut hole in back of shelf so they will feed down the back instead of the front ;)
  • 02-11-2014, 08:25 PM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Just a quick question on positioning of thermometers and hygrometer.

    I have hygrometer in the middle of the back panel to measure ambient humidity. Is that ok or should I have it on the side near the water bowl. Which actually leads me to the question, is the water ok at the cool end or should I switch to warm end?

    I have a 2 probe digital thermometer. Warm end I have it in the hide at that end. Cool end I have it exposed on the viv floor between the water bowl and hide. Are these locations ok?
    Warm end the probe is laid on the orchid bark under the hide but I have a feeling she'll move it so she's just laid on the viv floor. Thinking it better to have the probe in contact with the viv floor in there too?
  • 02-11-2014, 09:53 PM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Can someone plz advise on heat mat positioning


    Currently under Viv but on another forum I've been warned this can cause mat burn out or worse!


    They advise As long as mat is on stat it will be safe to use inside the Viv but store owner said not to


    I'm so confused :(
  • 02-11-2014, 11:01 PM
    winglesshornet
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kat1204 View Post
    Can someone plz advise on heat mat positioning


    Currently under Viv but on another forum I've been warned this can cause mat burn out or worse!


    They advise As long as mat is on stat it will be safe to use inside the Viv but store owner said not to


    I'm so confused :(

    Do not use inside the enclosure. It should be the size of 1/3 to 2/3 of enclosures bottom placed underneath and offset to one side. The thermostat mounts between the uth and the enclosures bottom on the outside.

    However, very nice viv

    Sent from my MB886 using Tapatalk
  • 02-11-2014, 11:13 PM
    piedpython
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Use under the viv but raise up all four corners a bit to vent so it does not overheat. If you place the mat inside moisture from the humidity and snake feces will damage the mat.
  • 02-12-2014, 03:32 AM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Even though it is a wooden Viv?

    with wood being an insulator won't it mean the mat will get really hot but the temp inside won't be as high as I thought heatmats heated what thy were touching? If there's a gap between bottom of Viv and heat mat then won't all the heat be lost?

    so confusing!
  • 02-12-2014, 04:37 AM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Right!! Heat mat been on since 4pm yesterday and temp in viv is only 29.3C. It isn't hot enough!!

    Due to size of viv, I can't use ceramic yet as fitting + bulb+ guard means it will sit too near the floor. Plus she is just a baby so I'm going with heat mat alone until she is big enough for larger viv.

    I will therefore (like a lot of other keepers I have found) be putting the mat inside the viv. HOWEVER, I will put polystyrene under the mat and either a piece of Perspex or lino over the top to prevent burns. PLUS stat probe will be in contact with the mat and so it shouldn't get anywhere near hot enough to burn my girl.

    Thank you so much for your advice on this but I've made an informed decision based on the need for a higher temp and what I've read other experienced keepers are doing in the UK

    If they've had no problems for the numerous years they've kept/bred royals, then this method is for us.

    Don't want to upset anyone, there seems to be reasons for and against Inside and outside viv. I need higher temp though so inside (with safety precautions) is for us.
  • 02-12-2014, 11:09 AM
    piedpython
    Mya's new enclosure :)
    You can place it in the enclosure only if you seal it from moisture, I did not know the bottom of the viv was wood as well. And make sure the thermostat probe is under the mat and cannot be moved by the snake. The probe for the thermostat and thermometer should be touching the mat so you know the exact temperature if the bp is in contact with the mat to prevent burns.
  • 02-12-2014, 04:32 PM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    I've now installed the heat mat inside, as it says to for wooden vivs. I hadn't realised it had specific instructions in the packet DOH! It says just to put it on the wood floor as wood is a great insulator.

    As you know it also says not to immerse it in water (which I wouldn't but don't want poop or excess humidity making contact) therefore I have still put the lino on the top and sealed it all round. The probes for stat and thermometer are both in contact with this and so she won't get burned.
    Temp now showing 35.6C as just installed it so it's deffo getting hot enough now :) Just need to keep adjusting the mat stat till it keeps it at the correct temp of 32C.

    Does the basking temp remain at 32C all their lives or do you raise it as they get older?
  • 02-12-2014, 05:42 PM
    scooter11
    great job, I love the natural looking cages. I used to have several of them for my boas before I got into breeding. I built all of them and loved that look. I just wish they didn't take up so much space. I do love seeing them when someone creates a natural looking environment for their snakes. you did a great job, congrats!

    ps. don't forget pics when the lights are in
  • 02-13-2014, 05:25 PM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    All done :)


    LED lights installed and viv lock on :)


    Providing the temps and humidity remain correct throughout tomorrow, I can bring her home on Saturday!!! Eeeeeek!!!


    Here's some pics with the lights on:


    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...z/image-11.jpg


    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...z/image-12.jpg



    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...z/image-13.jpg


    I can't wait to see her in there!
  • 02-13-2014, 05:29 PM
    piedpython
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    It looks really nice, good luck!
  • 02-13-2014, 06:01 PM
    Kat1204
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by piedpython View Post
    It looks really nice, good luck!

    Thanks.

    BTW ur snake is absolutely stunning!!
  • 02-13-2014, 07:19 PM
    George1994
    That viv is awesome! I love it! Let us know how Mya does whilst she is in there :)
  • 02-13-2014, 09:09 PM
    winglesshornet
    Re: Mya's new enclosure :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by winglesshornet View Post
    Do not use inside the enclosure. It should be the size of 1/3 to 2/3 of enclosures bottom placed underneath and offset to one side. The thermostat mounts between the uth and the enclosures bottom on the outside.

    However, very nice viv

    Sent from my MB886 using Tapatalk

    I didn't know the bottom was wood, glad to hear you found a method that works for you.
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