Spiders

If you bred a pinstripe x spider (spinner), would the wobble from the spider be carried down to it's offspring?

In an answer, yes. Anything with the spider gene can and will wobble.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

In an answer, yes. Anything with the spider gene can and will wobble.

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That is what I thought.. Thank you.

Point to note, i have a female spider that has quite a bad wobble but her off spring vary, some have wobble, others have hardly a wobble at all


Joe Tully

All spiders will have it but some are hardly noticeable ( only wobble sightly when feeding )


Joe Tully

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All spiders will have it but some are hardly noticeable ( only wobble sightly when feeding )

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Same for me. I don't feel that the wobble justifies avoiding the spider gene. It's an awesome morph that has lots of variability in appearance.

I agree. My Bumble Bee has a little bit of a wobble when he gets excited but that's it. Besides a little wobble, he's a great snake.

Now this is my question while we're on the subject: how much does the Spider wobble play a part in 3 or 4 gene snakes? Or is it still just a random occurrence depending on the animal?

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Originally Posted by Misha

I agree. My Bumble Bee has a little bit of a wobble when he gets excited but that's it. Besides a little wobble, he's a great snake.

Now this is my question while we're on the subject: how much does the Spider wobble play a part in 3 or 4 gene snakes? Or is it still just a random occurrence depending on the animal?

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Unless you have another gene that has an effect on what causes the wobble, it wouldn't matter how many other genes you add, the result would be the same if it was only spider, since the other genes most likely only have an effect on the appearance of the snake.

If u breed two snakes with the spider gene for eg a bee to a spinner blast this will double ur chances of having more server head wobble and this is y the spider wobbles in the first place. Its a dominate gene anyway so i would try to avoid this!


Joe Tully

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Originally Posted by Jt balls

If u breed two snakes with the spider gene for eg a bee to a spinner blast this will double ur chances of having more server head wobble and this is y the spider wobbles in the first place. Its a dominate gene anyway so i would try to avoid this!


Joe Tully

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Sorry but that info is wrong.

The spider wobble does not come from inbreeding, the first spider had the wobble.

Also breeding spider x spider will not double your chances for wobble.


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I was told by a top breeder in Germany that The 1st wild caught spider didn't have wobble


Joe Tully

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Originally Posted by Jt balls

I was told by a top breeder in Germany that The 1st wild caught spider didn't have wobble


Joe Tully

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I want to say that there is a video in which Kevin said the first spider had pretty severe spider symptoms...

Iv just done some research and looked at a Write up NERD have done. It seem ur right. I apologise! I was falsely to that the 1st W/C spider did not wobble and when they started mass breeding them the wobble started.


Joe Tully

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Originally Posted by Jt balls

If u breed two snakes with the spider gene for eg a bee to a spinner blast this will double ur chances of having more server head wobble

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This theory has been proven wrong by all the breeders I know (and probably by all the ones I don't know). The wobble is fairly random, and can pop up at anytime, and at any severity level anytime the Spider gene is present.

As long as they eat, shed, and poop, there is nothing wrong with your Spider being a little dingy in the cranium ;)

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Originally Posted by Wheatley

If you bred a pinstripe x spider (spinner), would the wobble from the spider be carried down to it's offspring?

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Just to clarify, the wobble can be passed down only to the spider offspring (spider and spinner), not to any resulting pinstripe or normal.

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Originally Posted by J.P.

Just to clarify, the wobble can be passed down only to the spider offspring (spider and spinner), not to any resulting pinstripe or normal.

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Thats why we stated "anything with a spider gene". If it doesnt have spider it doesnt wobble.