Staying in her water dish...

My BP has been staying in her water dish for the past 2 weeks, even at night when the heat lamp is off (i have an UTH on one side that stays on at night but the water dish is on the cooler side)
She doesn't have any signs of shedding that I can see & is still eating...should I be concerned.

Are you sure she doesn't come out at all? maybe while your not in the same room.

Staying in water bowl is usually one of the three things (but there could be other reasons).

1. Too hot
2. Scared, hiding, and no other good hiding places
3. Mites

Those are not the only reasons they can do this, but they are the most common.

Check the temps, make sure she has someplace to hide and feel secure, and check for mites.

Some of mine go in there once in a while when there bout to start shedding

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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Originally Posted by Grim8899

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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Nope, your wrong, sorry chap, you shouldn't use heat lamps because of humidity problems, im not saying you can't if you put in the extra effort to keep it humid enough though.. He is in the wrong if it is unregulated UTH then it very well could be to hot, what are your temps on the hotspot and cool side?

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Originally Posted by Grim8899

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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lol try again, you can most certainly turn off the heat lamp at night, so long as temps in the rest of the room are at least in the 70s. I don't run my space heater at night for safety reasons and my snakes do just fine overnight. If the UTH is properly regulated, the snake is fine.

OP, what kind of hides are you providing? Have you checked for mites? The fact that the snake is staying in the water bowl even at night speaks more to other problems than heat.

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Originally Posted by Grim8899

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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Before you try to give any advice please get some knowledge ourself.

An UTH can generate the proper heat depending on a variety of things.

A BP does not need bulbs, one main reason is their nocturnal. Bulbs also lower humidity and while I do run them in my Rufous Beaked setup I personally would never leave bulbs running. If anything I'd get a ceramic heat emitter.

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Originally Posted by Grim8899

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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By your measure, heat tape (which a large portion of the industry use) is also bad to use.

But, just so you know, the snake can't perceive the black light first of all. And bulbs just suck humidity out. So, how many full sheds have you ever experienced? Did you even know that's how it's supposed happen?

Are tubs also a bad option? Why do you put your snake(s) in enclosures for fish?

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Originally Posted by Grim8899

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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Yep totally out of line response if you ask me. Check your facts before tearing into someone, or spouting off

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Originally Posted by Grim8899

So you give your snake no heat at night? That's wrong.

you rely on night heat just threw a UTH? That's wrong.

i could understand decreasing the temp at night. But to give him no heat at all. Not good. They are cold blooded,you know that,right? They rely on you to keep them warm.

the only reason I can see your snake is forever in its water bowl is mites. Obviously not heat,cause you don't even keep him warm at night. I leave my bulbs running 24-7. In use a double dome. I put a day bulb in one and a black light bulb in the other outlet. I keep my tanks warm all day every day and I still use UTHS

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A black light? Snake rave? I use no heat lights or UTH mwhahahah..

On the hot side my temps are usually around 90...but I provide branches & a tall rock cave so she can bask right under the lamp if she wants to (she never does)
She did spend all her time in the cave before this water dish obsession. Temps on the cool side is 70. I'm thinking she probably needs another hide on the cooler side, I have logs but she can't really hide.
At night we keep our house at 70 & like I said I keep the UTH on & just turn the basking lamp off so she has a day/night cycle. I was going to use a night light but read UTHs were better.

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Originally Posted by Kahlua

Temps on the cool side is 70. I was going to use a night light but read UTHs were better.

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Your cool side temps are low. You definitely should bump them up to at least 75. But I'd suggest 78-82. The UTH only provides belly heat. You need to have proper ambient temps throughout the whole day. I'd suggest a CHE on a dimmer instead of any lamps or night lights.

Also, BPs don't need to have different temps during the night.


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I have one snake ( Spider) that usually goes in her water dish about every other month just before she sheds. She is in her water right now NO mites, no UTH, no hides, no bulbs on any of my snakes. All in tubs. Never have any problems with her or her sheds. Don't get me wrong, I am looking into changing things around, but this has and is working for me. Just using room temps steady around 80 degrees.