How are Anteresia not more popular?

I dont get why there isn't more love for these guys....
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I've just never heard of them before. Or seen one before.

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Originally Posted by ViperSRT3g

I've just never heard of them before. Or seen one before.

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you've never heard of childrens, spotted, stimsons or ant hill pythons?

He's so much bigger than my little guy...ill try and snap some pics tomorrow...I agree its hard to believe there isn't more love for them...such awesome snakes!

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I've always liked childrens but I prefer larger snakes or else I'd consider these guys (same goes for the sand boas)!

I love love love their faces. I've always wanted a children's.

I don't really see many, but they are very cute! I love the first pic :) it reminds me of the cartoon Dexters Laboratory. It looks like Dexters sister DeeDee saying "Oooo what does this button dooo?" Lol xD


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Why are they not more popular? Who knows. They are small, they are fairly bullet proof, they have fairly undemanding husbandry and they - for a boid - are fairly active. They are easy and entertaining captives.

Then again, it depends on your definition of popularity. There are plenty of antaresia afficionados out there. Once you discover where they hang out, maybe you will reconsider the whole "lack of love" thing.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Why are they not more popular? Who knows. They are small, they are fairly bullet proof, they have fairly undemanding husbandry and they - for a boid - are fairly active. They are easy and entertaining captives.

Then again, it depends on your definition of popularity. There are plenty of antaresia afficionados out there. Once you discover where they hang out, maybe you will reconsider the whole "lack of love" thing.

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i know where they hang out, some of them anyway. there is quite a bit of pretentiousness over there. the aussie guys are pretty cool on their forum though....just arent many people from the states on that one.

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Originally Posted by ViperSRT3g

I've just never heard of them before. Or seen one before.

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They recently did a snakebytes episode focusing on these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qohDSYrglys

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

They recently did a snakebytes episode focusing on these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qohDSYrglys

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checked it out. it's not too informative but it was cool seeing all the different morphs and different locality color changes.

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Originally Posted by lefty

checked it out. it's not too informative but it was cool seeing all the different morphs and different locality color changes.

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ya it was more just for the eye candy

Snapped a qiick pick of my worm last night, but didn't get a chance to hold him...I will pull him out and take more tonighthttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/10/qanyhuza.jpg

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I think there cool i just like a snake that gets bigger every snake i have will get to atleast 4-5 feet except my hognose

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Its their personality that makes them so cool IMO, they think they are bigger than life, tend to try and "fly" out of their enclosures, but once they are in your hands they are puppy dog calm (for the most part, I know lefty's new female is possessed).

How nippy compared to other snakes?

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Originally Posted by MrLang

How nippy compared to other snakes?

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they are like most aussies. nippy as hatchlings. mellow with age. my male is small and he has chilled way out. my female is bigger, still nowhere near full grown and she is mean. she hasnt been handled at all and i have no doubt that i can tame her down with ease. as sub adults and adults they are puppy dog tame. even the nippy babies are fine out of their enclosure.

And they are so small that its almost cute when the nip you. I was actually shocked when mine drew blood, I didn't think it was possible. But my little one in the cage will strike over and over at anything, his reflections, snake hook, hand. I pull him out and he will strike maybe 3 more times, then hes fine...just starts exploring the world around him. The other day he had a mouth full of substrate from striking at the hook and I pulled him out and he let me open and clean his mouth without an issue.

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Snapped a qiick pick of my worm last night, but didn't get a chance to hold him...I will pull him out and take more tonighthttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/10/qanyhuza.jpg

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i love his color and pattern.

Thanks! His color and spots haven't faded at all. I know hes still young, but I have seen some of his litter mates that have already lost some banding, so maybe I will get lucky and some of it will stay.

Here are a quick few...he's wasn't a happy camper
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Neat little guy. I'd probably get one if I planned on keeping boids.

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Originally Posted by MrLang

How nippy compared to other snakes?

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Age and size seem to matter more to them calming down than handling does for the most of it. Babies are 6" long with a 60' attitude, it's laughable honestly, and at that size often won't sit still in your hands much before trying to shoot off and run away. It seems like somewhere around 12-18 months old, it's like they wake up one day and are suddenly a totally calm and laid back, different animal. I have four adult breeders and none have ever been handled, so long as there isn't a scent of rodent in the room, I can handle any of them and do not expect to get bitten.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Why are they not more popular? Who knows.

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Because these exist!
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...69A71AD5A4.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...psd330737d.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c684982.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f521e02.jpg

Lol, that's why for me at least ;)

But for lil guys they are cute!


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

Here are a quick few...he's wasn't a happy camper
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nice. i love their eyes when they are that tiny. the eyes are so huge. its like the hatch with adult eyes then grow in to them.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Neat little guy. I'd probably get one if I planned on keeping boids.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Why are they not more popular? Who knows. They are small, they are fairly bullet proof, they have fairly undemanding husbandry and they - for a boid - are fairly active. They are easy and entertaining captives.

Then again, it depends on your definition of popularity. There are plenty of antaresia afficionados out there. Once you discover where they hang out, maybe you will reconsider the whole "lack of love" thing.

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excuse my lack of education on this.....i'm curious what makes these guys a boid? what is the difference between a boid and a non-boid?

Very nice, I really like the Anteresia myself. I used to have a nice maculosa for a while and really enjoyed his personality, unfortunatly I went through one of my 'reductionist' periods and now he lives with someone else. I'm sure I'll eventually have some again someday, they really are a lot of fun and not that common (yet)

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Originally Posted by lefty

excuse my lack of education on this.....i'm curious what makes these guys a boid? what is the difference between a boid and a non-boid?

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I believe (please correct) that the simplest differentiation is that they're a constrictor that gives birth to live young, vs. egg laying.

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Originally Posted by MrLang

I believe (please correct) that the simplest differentiation is that they're a constrictor that gives birth to live young, vs. egg laying.

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thats what i thought too. however these snakes have been refered to as boids twice in this thread but they are egg laying pythons, therefore not boids if my understanding is correct.

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Originally Posted by lefty

excuse my lack of education on this.....i'm curious what makes these guys a boid? what is the difference between a boid and a non-boid?

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I believe at one time taxonomists lumped the pythons in with the family Boidae as the subfamily Pythoninae,
they've been split out into their own family but a lot of people still refer to both pythons and boas as boids.

Family: Pythonidae - Fitzinger, 1826 Pythons taxa
Genus: Antaresia - Wells & Wellington, 1984
Genus: Apodora - Kluge, 1993
Genus: Aspidites - Peters, 1877
Genus: Bothrochilus - Fitzinger, 1843
Genus: Leiopython - Hubrecht, 1879
Genus: Liasis - Gray, 1842
Genus: Morelia - Gray, 1842
Genus: Python - Daudin, 1803 Pythons

Family: Boidae Gray, 1825 Boas

Subfamily: Boinae - Gray, 1825 Boas taxa
Genus: Boa - Linnaeus, 1758 Boas
Genus: Candoia - Gray, 1842 Bevel-nosed boas
Genus: Corallus - Daudin, 1803 Neotropical tree boas
Genus: Epicrates - Wagler, 1830 West Indian boas
Genus: Eunectes - Wagler, 1830 Anacondas

Subfamily: Erycinae - Bonaparte, 1831 Old World sand boas taxa
Genus: Charina - Gray, 1849 Rosy boas, rubber boas
Genus: Eryx - Daudin, 1803 Old World sand boas
Genus: Gongylophis - Wagler, 1830

Of course knowing taxonomists, this could change at any time.

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Originally Posted by lefty

thats what i thought too. however these snakes have been refered to as boids twice in this thread but they are egg laying pythons, therefore not boids if my understanding is correct.

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Boids/Boidae are pythons and boas.

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Because these exist!
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...69A71AD5A4.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...psd330737d.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c684982.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f521e02.jpg

Lol, that's why for me at least ;)

But for lil guys they are cute!


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

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While I do enjoy and respect the big guys, I know that I am in no way ready for one, plus its nice have a lil guy like this that can be nippy at times that my son (5) can get experience with and learn not to be jumpy around and how to respond when they tag.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I believe at one time taxonomists lumped the pythons in with the family Boidae as the subfamily Pythoninae,
they've been split out into their own family but a lot of people still refer to both pythons and boas as boids.

Family: Pythonidae - Fitzinger, 1826 Pythons taxa
Genus: Antaresia - Wells & Wellington, 1984
Genus: Apodora - Kluge, 1993
Genus: Aspidites - Peters, 1877
Genus: Bothrochilus - Fitzinger, 1843
Genus: Leiopython - Hubrecht, 1879
Genus: Liasis - Gray, 1842
Genus: Morelia - Gray, 1842
Genus: Python - Daudin, 1803 Pythons

Family: Boidae Gray, 1825 Boas

Subfamily: Boinae - Gray, 1825 Boas taxa
Genus: Boa - Linnaeus, 1758 Boas
Genus: Candoia - Gray, 1842 Bevel-nosed boas
Genus: Corallus - Daudin, 1803 Neotropical tree boas
Genus: Epicrates - Wagler, 1830 West Indian boas
Genus: Eunectes - Wagler, 1830 Anacondas

Subfamily: Erycinae - Bonaparte, 1831 Old World sand boas taxa
Genus: Charina - Gray, 1849 Rosy boas, rubber boas
Genus: Eryx - Daudin, 1803 Old World sand boas
Genus: Gongylophis - Wagler, 1830

Of course knowing taxonomists, this could change at any time.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Boids/Boidae are pythons and boas.

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A-ha. thanks guys. i learn something new every day...

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Boids/Boidae are pythons and boas.

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Than wouldn't BPs fall into this category?

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

Than wouldn't BPs fall into this category?

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What's a BP?

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

What's a BP?

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I was just referencing Neals quote about not keeping Boids, but if a Boid is a Python or Boa, and he keeps ball pythons then I was a bit confused...

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

I was just referencing Neals quote about not keeping Boids, but if a Boid is a Python or Boa, and he keeps ball pythons then I was a bit confused...

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As am I.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

As am I.

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i believe he is asking if ball pythons are considered boids.

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

I was just referencing Neals quote about not keeping Boids, but if a Boid is a Python or Boa, and he keeps ball pythons then I was a bit confused...

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Ah, the wonderful world of taxonomy.

I'm currently keeping a few bullsnakes which used to be known as Pituophis sayi, which then were known as Pituophis sayi sayi which were then known as Pituophis catenifer sayi which were then known as Pituphis melanolucas sayi which were then again known as Pituophis catenifer sayi which I believe are currently once again known as Pituophis sayi. :O

I'm also keeping a few species of Elaphe (what the heck is a 'Pantherophis' anyway?) and is it Lampropeltis getula? or Lampropeltis getulus? I know a few people who are adamant that they're keeping 'Chondos' and NOT Morelia viridis...:rolleyes:

What's in a name anyway???

OMG they are so cute... What are the pros and cons of this snake? How is their temperament? I know I can look it up, but I want to hear it from people that have owned them on here! I'm kinda interested. :D

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Because these exist!
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...69A71AD5A4.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...psd330737d.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c684982.jpg

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f521e02.jpg

Lol, that's why for me at least ;)

But for lil guys they are cute!


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

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Is that an anaconda in the top 2 photos??:O

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Originally Posted by MicheC

Is that an anaconda in the top 2 photos??:O

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Yes it is. That's my baby girl!


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

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Originally Posted by Expensive hobby

Yes it is. That's my baby girl!


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

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How big is it going to get??

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Originally Posted by MicheC

How big is it going to get??

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Probably only a foot or two more in her lifetime, and maybe 20-30lbs more. It's all dependent on feeding and genetics.

My really big one will be my female retic ;)


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

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Originally Posted by MicheC

OMG they are so cute... What are the pros and cons of this snake? How is their temperament? I know I can look it up, but I want to hear it from people that have owned them on here! I'm kinda interested. :D

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they are awesome little guys. look bak through this thread and you will find a few posts with the answers to your questions..

Got my female out for a minute. She has been pretty grumpy but i was able to hold her for a bit tonight. She has a couple of goes at me but never opened her mouth. She just head bumped me. Seems like she is starting to come around a bit. I snagged this shot before she got pretty stressed and i put her back in her enclosure
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/13/e4asusej.jpg
I grabbed a couple more when i put her back before she went in her hide.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/13/8u4a5epe.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/13/e3uvugy2.jpg

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Originally Posted by lefty

Got my female out for a minute. She has been pretty grumpy but i was able to hold her for a bit tonight. She has a couple of goes at me but never opened her mouth. She just head bumped me. Seems like she is starting to come around a bit. I snagged this shot before she got pretty stressed and i put her back in her enclosure
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/13/e4asusej.jpg
I grabbed a couple more when i put her back before she went in her hide.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/13/8u4a5epe.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/13/e3uvugy2.jpg

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Is she bigger than your male or are these just zoomed in? She looks good.

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

Is she bigger than your male or are these just zoomed in? She looks good.

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she is a fair bit larger than he is. i would say length wise they are close. she may be a bit longer. she is quite a bitter bigger around than him though. if i can get her to chill a little bit i intend to get a picture of them together. hopefully i will have one soon. i'll post it up as soon i can make that happen......

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Ah, the wonderful world of taxonomy.

I'm currently keeping a few bullsnakes which used to be known as Pituophis sayi, which then were known as Pituophis sayi sayi which were then known as Pituophis catenifer sayi which were then known as Pituphis melanolucas sayi which were then again known as Pituophis catenifer sayi which I believe are currently once again known as Pituophis sayi. :O

I'm also keeping a few species of Elaphe (what the heck is a 'Pantherophis' anyway?) and is it Lampropeltis getula? or Lampropeltis getulus? I know a few people who are adamant that they're keeping 'Chondos' and NOT Morelia viridis...:rolleyes:

What's in a name anyway???

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Hahaa...true...good luck removing the name "chondros" from my vocabulary, I'll stop calling them that the day the bp world quits calling it's incomplete dominate morphs "codoms". :gj:

Taxonomy has become a bit of a mixed bag anyways, the whole "pythons lay eggs, boas give birth" rule is slightly out dated...well I don't know of a python that gives birth, but there are several egg laying boas now.

I grabbed a couple shots of my spotted python Olivander http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/20/etysegy4.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/20/mytydu8y.jpg

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