Theoretical double recessive combo

I have decided that this year if I buy anything, it's goin to be an ultramel, but then what will I do with it? I think the obvious answer would be ultra pied since it's stunning, but what else would be nice? (sorry, this is what I do when I can't sleep, think about pairings etc). I'm not partial to snows, so I'm not really feeling the ultramel axanthic (why would you combine awesome color gene + takes out color gene?), but then I started thinking how would a lavender ultramel look? Would the lavender intensify the terra cotta parts of the ultra, or will the albinism override everything to make something more snow-like?

I realize this is a rather long-term project, as well as completely theoretical at this point. I just like the idea of selecting genes that compliment and improve each other aesthetically, rather than how many genes I can fit in a single animal (which is also a perfectly reasonable plan, it just doesn't "do it" for me personally), and I feel like I don't know how lavender influences things well enough to even guess how that combo might express visually. Does anyone who's worked with these genes have any thoughts about it? Thanks!

i think lavender albino and ultramel are too similar. but then, since noone has done it, we dont know for sure how it would look like. i just somehow doubt you would get something awesome.

since ultramel is a nice recessive color morph, combining it with a recessive pattern morph would be the obvious way to go. im thinking, ultramel pied, ultramel genetic stripe, or ultramel clown would make sense.

Definitely yes with the ultramel g-stripe combo. I'd love to see that. As far as other multi genes go, I've seen plenty of 5 and 6 gene combos. Some are gorgeous jaw droppers, annnnnd some can be down right hideous. I'm actually shooting for a 4 gene combo with my very first pairing later this year. A double recessive is technically also a 4 gene animal too if you didn't know.

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You would think the albino would over power the ultramel, but I know burms that was not the case. The albino/caramel burm is pretty neat looking. It could come out something not too far from lav albino, but don't know until you try. Safer route would to go with a pattern morph though, I don't think you can lose out with them. Clowns are my personal favorite.

Ultra clown or Ultra Glow (Hypo) :gj:

Thanks guys, for some reason I hadn't thought of clown, probably since I don't have that specific gene in my collection yet, but it would be an awesome combo.

TSG - I have no problem with high numbers of genes going in, I just prefer it when those genes are chosen with the intent to make something visually exciting rather than simply for the sake of it. Also I do not trust my skills in figuring out which genes are actually in the offspring when they start getting to 5 or 6 or more lol.

OWAL - I'm going to look at up those burms, I hadn't thought to look in other species to get an idea.

Annarose - let's go really big and say ultra glow clown!

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Originally Posted by Badgemash

Annarose - let's go really big and say ultra glow clown!

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Now you're talking!!! :gj:

Superbino Burm

Ultraglow would be awesome to, I actually might buy into that project in a few years.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

Superbino Burm

Ultraglow would be awesome to, I actually might buy into that project in a few years.

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Wow, that burm is stunning! The hypo would definitely be an option for me since I already have that gene. When I realized the only non-recessive BP I have is the hubby's lesser girl (because he wanted to make a bel, even my hoggie is recessive lol) I figured recessives might be my "thing." But I still need to get some G stripes and clowns going, and then mix them all together. :D

The lavender snow did not turn out like people expected so the ultramel axanthic might surprise you as well. Only one way to find out. Can't go wrong with double recessives.

With how nice ultramels are on their own, I'm thinking complexes. Ultra super stripe, disco cream, crystal etc. Those are projects i want to get into.

Just sticking with two gene combos, my first pick to pair it with would be clown, second would be pied...if you were going to add in an incomplete dominate gene, I would consider enchi or pin.

Being that ultramel is basically a nicer Caramel, it will combo with just about anything nicely.
Except albino :P

What genes make up the ultramels?

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Originally Posted by ROACH

What genes make up the ultramels?

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It is a base recessive morph

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Originally Posted by rascal_rascal_99

Just sticking with two gene combos, my first pick to pair it with would be clown, second would be pied...if you were going to add in an incomplete dominate gene, I would consider enchi or pin.

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Have you seen the ultramel enchi (sunbeam)?! It is insane!

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Being that ultramel is basically a nicer Caramel, it will combo with just about anything nicely.
Except albino :P

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See that's what I'm wondering, is it going to behave like caramel, or more like toffee (or in this theoretical version a toffino)? Although both of those have red eyes, so maybe the ultra would act differently?

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Have you seen the ultramel enchi (sunbeam)?! It is insane!

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Personally I think enchi has that effect in a lot of combos :gj: