84cm BP in 40cm enclosure!!!

Hi, just obtained a a bp, living in an enclosure waaay to small for him, he is about a year and a half (maybe a bit less) and I was wondering a good size, what is to big….. also if anyone has any good places to buy cheap enclousures than that would be great (uk prefrably but shipping available). I need to get him out of this one ASAP so bigger tub for now but I prefer the look of an enclosure before I get a rack (only if I get to twenty snakes which is unlikely:D) and dont just want a plastic tub or any plastic terranium or faunarium, a proper vivarium.
Edit: Black if possible and suggesting sites but wooden is okay

http://www.bluelizardreptiles.co.uk/.../5055376410835, anyone know anything about this or have experiance with this or similar?

The largest footprint I can think of for a glass viv is the 36x18 ExoTerra. That's inches btw. You could probably get something bigger custom made.

I don't know how you feel about melamine or wood panel enclosures, but you can find those in pretty large sizes.

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Ya im thinking of a black melamine

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Ya im thinking of a black melamine

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Not a bad choice. I don't know a lot about them, besides the fact that they're not cheap, and they're heavy as hell. I'm curious about how to provide belly heat in them.

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Im no help for a source near you.

I believe that a snake can be kept in any size cage desired as long as its done correctly. My bp has spent its entire life in a 40gal tank(36in x 19in x 18in) and has thrived. I prefer naturalistic keeping and she has always had plants(fake and live), driftwood, and hides. This offers the feeling of security needed to keep your snake happy when the cage would otherwise have large open areas.

As for ordering a cage you can pretty much order whatever you want. I keep bloods and a brb in pvc cages that are 4ft x 2ft x 15in. They are good for holding humidity and easy to clean. I don't think a ball would ever need something like that though. For bigger snakes you can even get two piece cages that bolt together to be 7 to 8ft long. The sky and your wallet is your only limits when it comes to cages. My blood is nearing 6ft and she actually makes her cage look small. She only has a litter box hat(was a hide at one point) on one side a bowl of water in the middle and crumpled newspaper to hide in on the other.

All that said I don't think you would need anything bigger than a 40gal footprint for a bp,

Here are some sources for ideas. There are more but this should give you an idea of whats out there and the price.

http://www.boaphileplastics.com/

http://pvccages.com/ (I have one of these for my gtp and love it)

http://www.repti-racks.com/

http://www.apcages.com/home/

http://cserpents.com/C_Serpents_Hot_Box/HOME.html

I wish I could help, but I didn't keep snakes when I lived in England (East Anglia is not exactly reptile Mecca). I PM'd Naom9Anne though, she's in England as well so hopefully she knows where to shop.

does the 3foot one in the link look ok

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does the 3foot one in the link look ok

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Assuming the exchange rate is still $1.63 to a GBP, that's a pretty great deal.

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does the 3foot one in the link look ok

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Which link?

The bluelizard reptile one in my second post

I would check with them on the heating and lighting options. It says it has ports which to me sounds like it is set up for heating rocks and such. If the bottom is wood too a uth is not going to work very well. You also want to be careful putting heat lamps within the cage for a snake. Those issues are what I see with it.

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The bluelizard reptile one in my second post

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I know you said you were looking at black melamine, but if those bluelizard viva are solid, or even hardwood veneer on the outside, JUMP ON IT! They're about 1/3 of what a similar sized melamine goes for, and if it's just veneer on the outside, that's still good. If I could get one in the states, I wouldn't think twice. Imagine the oak one, stained black... And for under $100?

KMG has valid concerns, but I think it could be worked out with a little creativity.

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Hey! Been offline a few days and came on here to a message linked to this post! Swell Reptiles is supposed to be really good for vivarium set ups. I just got a new girl and put her into my 3ft viv. She has three hides so plenty of space to hide and she is doing really well. I use the really useful boxes for my others but I do have a vivarium too :)

Heard good things about blue lizard reptiles too but more positive things and more recommendations for swell reptiles online :)