What would you go for?

Right guys, I have found a breeder near me who is selling 2 BP's I am interested in; problem is I can't choose. The price difference is insignificant. She has told me that she does a 2 month payment plan scheme so I know I can pay in time towards this guy.

I have a normal female het genetic stripe and I have been on the look out for a boyfriend for her, now I know I should get my females and grow them up and get a male later but I'm terrible and can't help myself ;)

The breeder has 2 possibilities. She has a butter ph gs male and a cinnamon ph gs male. The cinnamon shows signs of her 100% hets and exhibits signs that he does carry the genetic stripe gene.

What would you go for? I do like the butter gs but I already have a lesser female and I think these morphs are quite similar although I do more of a "lighter and brighter" lover in BP's. I am not against going for something darker though.

In summary I am stuck. HELP! :D

Butter male to pair to your lesser and het gs girl

My lesser has a choice of spider or mojave. Most likely the spider as I am not the biggest fan of all white snakes (no offence to lovers of BEL's I may change my mind over time)

I vote for Cinny. Especially if it's showing really good signs of being an actual het.
And in the future you can also put that cinny to the lesser female for a really gorgeous combo.

Yeah I also have a female pastel, although due to her poor colouring I may keep her as a pet rather than a breeder and invest in a brighter pastel female, and I could also make pewters.

I am so conflicted when I see two beautiful snakes but I don't need nor can I afford two more males right now. She also had a beautiful orange ghost but that would have been pure impulse.

Id go with cinny since you already have a lesser. Lessers and butters are basically the same morph. Adding a cinny will give you more possibilities and its darker unlike the lessers. And if it shows markers for het than id go for it.


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Originally Posted by Bobbafett

Butter male to pair to your lesser and het gs girl

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I vote for this too! Pair him to your lesser and make BELs, if he ends up being het gs, gs butters are flippin sweeet :D

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But if you hold back a BEL and breed, how would you lable the offspring? Butter or Lesser?

Not to mention potential eye deformities in Butter Lesser Crosses.

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Get the males later. Get your females now, grow them up, in 3 years buy a two or three gene male to go with them. Prices are dropping every year. What you get in 3 years will be much better than what you can get now for your male.

I love spiders! If you are looking for one now I have a buddy looking to rehome a 2012 spider male that is absolutely stunning. he came from bhb reptiles.

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I love spiders! If you are looking for one now I have a buddy looking to rehome a 2012 spider male that is absolutely stunning. he came from bhb reptiles.

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1. I'm in England
2. I have myself a lovely male spider and a male bumblebee, love the spider combinations.

I'd go for the cinny as well for a variety of reasons:

1) More possible combinations with your current animals.
2) I love cinnys. (Irrelevant)
3) He shows promising het markers where the other male does not.
4) Lesser/Butter combos can produce babies with overly large bulging eyes.
5) You don't really like BELs anyway, so you should definitely get the cinny male.

I feel that given this logical breakdown, the answer is clear. ;) lol.

I would get neither. Like you said, building up females is your best bet. Males are cheap (relatively) and easy to come by and mature much much faster. It's a waste of an investment to get so many males so early on in my opinion

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Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90

I'd go for the cinny as well for a variety of reasons:

1) More possible combinations with your current animals.
2) I love cinnys. (Irrelevant)
3) He shows promising het markers where the other male does not.
4) Lesser/Butter combos can produce babies with overly large bulging eyes.
5) You don't really like BELs anyway, so you should definitely get the cinny male.

I feel that given this logical breakdown, the answer is clear. ;) lol.

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yeah x3

I would also vote for the cinny het gs, if you're set on one of those two. I am personally a big fan of variation. You have a lesser already (albeit a female one), and seeing as how you have no interest in a BEL not to mention the potential deformities, the cinny would be the way to go. Cinny lessers are pretty, pewters are cool, albino cinnamons have nice contrast. But I would personally work on getting more females at the moment, as males take less time to become breedable.

On a side note, already looking for new additions again? You little addict, you.. xD I'm totally jealous. :o

I was really leaning towards the cinny. whilst he is more expensive I do not see this as relevant. It would be nice to have a darker morph in my collection and I do think the butter and lesser are very similar.

Should I want to go for the BEL I have a mojave male which I could pair with my lesser female should I wish. Thank you for your input guys :)

I would hold off on any single gene males.
Speaking from my own experience, I did just that and now the two and three gene males are so easy to get, I should have waited.
I would invest in a pewter, lemon blast or some other two gene female that you like.
I love you enthusiasm but point it in a direction that will pay off down the road.

You will fall in love with cinnys. You ll see...

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Cinnamon all the way!! :)

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I would hold off on any single gene males.
Speaking from my own experience, I did just that and now the two and three gene males are so easy to get, I should have waited.
I would invest in a pewter, lemon blast or some other two gene female that you like.
I love you enthusiasm but point it in a direction that will pay off down the road.

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I really respect your view and I do understand where you are coming from. As much as I love the double/triple gene morphs I would rather try to create them myself. If I breed I am doing it solely for my own pleasure and satisfaction and I am more than happy to start by creating single and double morphs first before then expanding into the triple genes.

I think my thought process goes along the lines of, if I want something beautiful in my collection I would love to breed it into my collection rather than buying it. I was looking into simply purchasing a visual genetic stripe male rather than a morph x het to that gene and a breeder in my area suggested going for a morph het to genetic stripe instead.

The seller of the cinnamon het and the butter het also has a butter pastel het but he is out of my price range. I really love the base morphs, 7 of my babies are just that and I wouldn't have them any other way.

Thank you for your input though :)

If your going to get one of them get the cinnamon,
if it doesn't prove out, you will at least have added a new gene to your collection .