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Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups

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  • 12-04-2013, 06:28 PM
    Adin
    Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    I was wondering if anyone could identify what morphs this new pair of "Guyana" red tails are? I already own one salmon female that's 5 ft but I no idea about any other RTB morphs.

    Here's the new male
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/05/9ysuje7e.jpg

    Here's the new female
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/05/yqa5a2yh.jpg
  • 12-04-2013, 06:49 PM
    Daybreaker
    BCCs do not come in morphs (besides maybe few rare occurring specimens but I don't personally know of any off hand). I've seen BCI x BCC cross morphs due to the BCI side but in that case they aren't pure BCC. Your guys look like nice regular BCC red tails if they're pure, congrats!
  • 12-04-2013, 07:01 PM
    scooter11
    That first guy has a really neat abberancy. They don't look like Crosses and I would be happy. The Crosses remove most of what's special about the bcc's. And the person above is correct, they don't have different morph Guyanas. Be careful with them. If the food is to big they can have regurge issues. Always feed on the smaller side if in doubt

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  • 12-04-2013, 07:31 PM
    Adin
    Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    So both just regular BCCs? If so It doesn't matter I'm just curious as to what they are because the male is epic and the female will be a nice female to breed in the future with him.
  • 12-04-2013, 07:41 PM
    Daybreaker
    ^ IMO yes
  • 12-04-2013, 07:47 PM
    Shann
    I think you're the first person I have ever heard say "just regular BCCs" lol! BCC are just so beautiful. Sometimes you see people selling BCC morphs, but they are almost always crosses (with BCI). I have heard about pure BCC albinos, haven't really looked into them, but they aren't common, and I've never actually seen a confirmed one myself (not saying they aren't out there though)
  • 12-04-2013, 08:41 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adin View Post
    So both just regular BCCs? If so It doesn't matter I'm just curious as to what they are because the male is epic and the female will be a nice female to breed in the future with him.

    Yes, they are just "regular" BCC. I agree completely with Daybreaker. Guyanans are BCC and there are no known morphs among pure Guyanans. There are some albino Surinams, but those were originally crossed with BCI so even they aren't 100% pure.

    BUT you should be proud to have 100% pure Guyanans! These snakes are highly prized - especially with the nice aberrancies in pattern that your male shows. They should throw some nice offspring.

    I would pay attention to that previous advice about feeding though and they are less forgiving of husbandry errors than BCI are. Feed smaller prey less often and keep a careful eye on temps and humidity. :gj:
  • 12-04-2013, 10:48 PM
    Gio
    Re: Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Yes, they are just "regular" BCC. I agree completely with Daybreaker. Guyanans are BCC and there are no known morphs among pure Guyanans. There are some albino Surinams, but those were originally crossed with BCI so even they aren't 100% pure.

    BUT you should be proud to have 100% pure Guyanans! These snakes are highly prized - especially with the nice aberrancies in pattern that your male shows. They should throw some nice offspring.

    I would pay attention to that previous advice about feeding though and they are less forgiving of husbandry errors than BCI are. Feed smaller prey less often and keep a careful eye on temps and humidity. :gj:

    Very sound advice and insight. I would never look to cross any BCC. I am personally a locality guy but can appreciate and admire some of the beautiful BCI morphs out there.

    Take extra care as mentioned with the feeding and husbandry. If you slow grow those BCC's, Guyana boas have the potential to be some of the largest boas around. Peruvian, Guyana, Suri and Argentine boas become very large if raised properly.

    Enjoy!
  • 12-04-2013, 11:55 PM
    NagyReptiles
    Guyanese boas have a tendency to throw aberrant babies but to this date it has not proven to breed out reliably but still two stunners there!

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  • 12-05-2013, 12:05 AM
    Adin
    Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Well I'm glad to know I have two pure blood lines then :) thanks for all the advice. I think I'm not gunna let him have a go with my salmon boa and just reserve him for the Guyana female to just keep a pure line of sorts I'm gunna need to find another Guyana male for a holdback female if these two successfully breed in the future. They definitely still have a year before they can go I'm sure the male is ready but not the female so.. next season. ;) (or should I let him go ahead and go with the salmon female I have?)

    Thanks again guys
  • 12-05-2013, 12:13 AM
    Adin
    Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shann View Post
    I think you're the first person I have ever heard say "just regular BCCs" lol! BCC are just so beautiful. Sometimes you see people selling BCC morphs, but they are almost always crosses (with BCI). I have heard about pure BCC albinos, haven't really looked into them, but they aren't common, and I've never actually seen a confirmed one myself (not saying they aren't out there though)

    I just meant like if they were normals or a morph lol. Could of worded it better ha. I think I'm going to look into albino BCCs and if there may be anything else I'll just have to research a lot.
  • 12-05-2013, 12:19 AM
    Adin
    Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Any name suggestions? I need fitting names for both of them :) I was thinking something evil or dark for the male but don't know what exactly and as for the female I have no idea at all ha so any suggestions help!
  • 12-05-2013, 07:59 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adin View Post
    Well I'm glad to know I have two pure blood lines then :) thanks for all the advice. I think I'm not gunna let him have a go with my salmon boa and just reserve him for the Guyana female to just keep a pure line of sorts I'm gunna need to find another Guyana male for a holdback female if these two successfully breed in the future. They definitely still have a year before they can go I'm sure the male is ready but not the female so.. next season. ;) (or should I let him go ahead and go with the salmon female I have?)

    Thanks again guys

    1) We don't know if they are pure. I was assuming they were based on your previous posts, but there's no way to know for sure from a picture unless they were from a reputable breeder who told you they were. Since you'd used the term "Guyana" I was making the assumption they were pure Guyanans. They do LOOK pure, but we can't KNOW for sure yet. I would go back to the seller and get as much information as possible. If that person doesn't know anything, ask him/her who the original breeder was and if they might have contact info so you can go to the source.

    2) I absolutely would NOT pair the male with your Salmon female. Most people in the boa community will not appreciate a cross. Your best bet is to keep them as pure as possible.

    :gj:
  • 12-06-2013, 03:53 PM
    Shann
    Re: Guyana Red Tail Pick Ups
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
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    2) I absolutely would NOT pair the male with your Salmon female. Most people in the boa community will not appreciate a cross. Your best bet is to keep them as pure as possible.

    :gj:

    I definitely agree with this. I think the crosses look a little muddy. I don't think it does either the BCI or the BCC appearance any favors, personally.
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