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  • 11-14-2013, 11:30 AM
    asupython
    3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Let me just start off saying that I am a complete newbie. Hell, I just start back touching snakes since elementary school. And even though I've been reading literature (forums and such) like crazy, nothing has prepared for the real thing. I have a TON of questions but I wont bombard you guys. So anyways, after setting up the tub for my baby bp for a week (before i got him) to tweek things. To fix my ambient heat issue (64-66 deg) I decided to go wth a space heater, and position it close to the tub (but not too close). The week prior to getting my snake things were great and I got the ambient temps to 78-84deg. Depending on where I place the dial and the temps in the room, it will cut off automatically when temps are reached (not a real t-stat tho, no numbers). However, this week temps have dipped to 23 deg outside (im in metro ATL, thats crazy) and it keeps my heater from cutting off at night ( and probably the day) because its so cold, while ambient temps have dipped again to 74-77 deg. Two questions: 1. The space heater emits a red/orange light when on. Does it bother the snake? If so, what are my options other than turning my heat on. 2. If the space heater is cool then is there a t stat I can get for it?

    Side note: He ate the next day I got him so I dont think he's stressed. but he doesnt leave the cool side EVER. It'll be 48 hrs since eating when I get home so ill try to coax him to the hot side later.
  • 11-14-2013, 11:34 AM
    Rickys_Reptiles
    The red glow from the heater isn't an issue.

    You could get an on/off thermostat with a probe. Put the probe inside the tub and set it to 80 degrees. Then your heater will turn on and off as required to keep the inside temperature correct.

    *Note* I don't know which heater you're using, so this is just general advice
  • 11-14-2013, 12:03 PM
    asupython
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles View Post
    The red glow from the heater isn't an issue.

    You could get an on/off thermostat with a probe. Put the probe inside the tub and set it to 80 degrees. Then your heater will turn on and off as required to keep the inside temperature correct.

    *Note* I don't know which heater you're using, so this is just general advice

    http://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Electr.../dp/B001MYQA16

    I thought of that. Wont the heater require too much energy the t stat doesnt have?
  • 11-14-2013, 12:14 PM
    Rickys_Reptiles
    If you can't get the temps right, you may do better with a tank with a lid. That way you can use a heat lamp. Unfortunately heating a tub with only a UTH can be hard to achieve in a cool room.

    Check this out, it may help. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...light=solution
  • 11-14-2013, 12:26 PM
    bcr229
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asupython View Post
    he doesnt leave the cool side EVER. It'll be 48 hrs since eating when I get home so ill try to coax him to the hot side later.

    What is the temperature on the surface of the substrate/paper towel/newspaper/etc on the hot side as measured with a temp gun or IR thermomenter?
  • 11-14-2013, 01:08 PM
    MrLang
    He knows how to thermoregulate so I would let him do his own moving around in the tub. If you want to heat the area around the tub, I would recommend using this with your space heater: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or try other options for keeping it warm. If the ambient temp dips into the mid 70s that is fine.

    As for bombarding us - bombard away. You accepted that you're new and have learning to do and are reaching out for advice and suggestions on how to improve. Lots of people here are very eager to help people that want to be helped and are receptive to criticism and advice.
  • 11-14-2013, 01:09 PM
    dgring
    I don't mind being bombarded, bombard me ;):D:oops::P:)
  • 11-14-2013, 02:35 PM
    asupython
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    What is the temperature on the surface of the substrate/paper towel/newspaper/etc on the hot side as measured with a temp gun or IR thermomenter?


    89-92 substrate is paper towel so i have the probe taped to the bottom
  • 11-14-2013, 02:45 PM
    asupython
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrLang View Post
    He knows how to thermoregulate so I would let him do his own moving around in the tub. If you want to heat the area around the tub, I would recommend using this with your space heater: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or try other options for keeping it warm. If the ambient temp dips into the mid 70s that is fine.


    As for bombarding us - bombard away. You accepted that you're new and have learning to do and are reaching out for advice and suggestions on how to improve. Lots of people here are very eager to help people that want to be helped and are receptive to criticism and advice.


    that thermometer looks ok. payday is tommorrow. Ill propbably get it. I keep reading about oil filled radiators. I have no idea what they are. I posted the cheap one i bought from walmart ($30). IYO should i take it back and invest in one of those?

    Thanks for permission to bombard. Ive been googling everything but questions are coming, I assure you.
  • 11-14-2013, 02:49 PM
    asupython
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dgring View Post
    I don't mind being bombarded, bombard me ;):D:oops::P:)


    Thanks man. This bp is my only pet so besides my immediate fam (wife and two kids) it totally consumes my time. Im constantly checking temps. Hell I cant wait to get home to check them now. Hope the little guy is ok.
  • 11-14-2013, 02:50 PM
    Raven01
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles View Post
    The red glow from the heater isn't an issue.

    You could get an on/off thermostat with a probe. Put the probe inside the tub and set it to 80 degrees. Then your heater will turn on and off as required to keep the inside temperature correct.

    *Note* I don't know which heater you're using, so this is just general advice



    ^^^ That is a great response just check the wattage of your heater and compare that to the T-Stat. Keep in mind that most micro-heaters have 3 heat settings and each setting is a different wattage say 500W, 1000W, 1500W just as an example. So a 700W capable T-Stat could run that 1500W heat so long as it is only ever on it's lowest setting.

    Personally though, I'd be more inclined to make a tub enclosure that will help insulate the tub itself and install heat tape on a T-stat, the dial on the micro heater should be sufficient to help stabilize the room temps so the heat tape doesn't have as much work to do.
  • 11-14-2013, 03:22 PM
    asupython
    Re: 3 day BP owner seeking sound advice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
    ^^^ That is a great response just check the wattage of your heater and compare that to the T-Stat. Keep in mind that most micro-heaters have 3 heat settings and each setting is a different wattage say 500W, 1000W, 1500W just as an example. So a 700W capable T-Stat could run that 1500W heat so long as it is only ever on it's lowest setting.

    Personally though, I'd be more inclined to make a tub enclosure that will help insulate the tub itself and install heat tape on a T-stat, the dial on the micro heater should be sufficient to help stabilize the room temps so the heat tape doesn't have as much work to do.


    Ive actually looked for a t stat for it already and cant find one strong enough. My space heater has settings for 1200w/1500w. I always use 1200w.
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