your thoughts on these pet store Ball Pythons? 10 pics

I haven't had Ball Pythons since the late '90s, nor have I kept up on the latest morphs. These are the specimens readily available to me without having to drive 3 hours to Lodi or Berkeley.



$35, local pet shop:
http://i.imgur.com/HM8DuTw.jpg



$150, local pet shop:
http://i.imgur.com/mqb1g46.jpg



$150 each. These are pastels(?) There are two available, a light one and a darker one:
http://i.imgur.com/iY0TdaY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gqApolf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tD2FaY4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vfIimym.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Tbu1fYw.jpg




And then there's this. It's listed as a Spider, but what do you think about that stripe? It's $200:
http://i.imgur.com/9svDkSh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WnZz2vD.jpg



And its Spider cagemate, also $200:
http://i.imgur.com/y3BixbC.jpg



Is there anything exceptional, or negative, about any of these specimens? I feel like I'm inclined to go with either the wild type or the striped spider dude, or the lighter pastel.

Thanks!

That "lighter pastel" im pretty sure is an axanthix, but it could be the lighting cuz all I see is grey. And the spider could be some short of stripe morph but im not very familiar with those morphs. The spider in the second picture looks nice.

the $150 and the $200 are both spiders as well as probably the one under the log. These are getting more common at Petco in the past couple years, prices tend to be higher then most online sales.

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Originally Posted by kylearmbar

That "lighter pastel" im pretty sure is an axanthix, but it could be the lighting cuz all I see is grey. And the spider could be some short of stripe morph but im not very familiar with those morphs. The spider in the second picture looks nice.

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No Axanthic there.

You can find those same Morphs way cheaper on line or maybe at a local reptile show.

Also if you are looking at Spiders please research the Spider Wobble.

Maybe it's just the pictures themselves, but I personally wouldn't get any of them, no matter how cheap. None of them look healthy to me, and while that's reason enough to keep me from buying any of them myself, they're also all priced much higher than you could find a similar (healthier) animal at a show.

*Edit - I'm also not seeing good husbandry practices, although I know it's a big box store and they don't always have experienced reptile keepers on staff, I suspect they'd try to goad you into buying the same improper husbandry tools they're using, like the analog humidity/temperature gauges, and complete lack of proper hides.

Nope not axanthic. I like the stripe spider personally. $150 for a pastel is high right now even if it would be female.
Honestly I like the first one, very pretty

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The "stripey" spider is cool lookin, but for $200 is BETTER be female. You have a challenging decision to make....getting a better,higher quality animal for much less but pay $50+ for shipping, or spend the money in gas to drive the 3 hours to the reptile show...where there would be oodles of great quality ball pythons to chose from at great prices. Or, you could just buy one of those you have pictured and get instant gratification.

Problem with finding one online right now is depending on where you are they are unable to be shipped... :(

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These prices are not that competitive. I would definitely get something onlin or go to the show. I love reptile shows! You get To see so much cool stuff and meet all the breeders. If you want a good deal wait til the end of the show and make an offer on something. The real ligh one doesn't look like a regular pastel though...maybe it's just the pic.

Well, thankfully, I've been able to control my impulses and I'm still doing my research before I get back into the game.

One thing I can assure you all, I will not buy a snake from Petco.

The first couple of photos in my original post, from the local pet shop...I really like that place. Their BPs come from a local breeder and I was mistaken on the price of that Spider, it's not $150, it's $100. I'm kind of feeling like I may not want a Spider, due to the wobble issue. They also have a Pastel, not pictured, for $75. And I still really, really like that Normal for only $35.

I did hold the Spider and checked it out for a few minutes...no sign of wobble. But, the more I read, the more I think maybe I want to do something that doesn't involve the Spider gene. I'm not sure yet.

For the time being, I'm more focused on nailing-down the parameters of a solid stewardship program and putting it all together before acquiring the stock.

:snake:

Where are you located?

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Woah.. 35 bux for one? Thats like 42% of what I paid for my normal after conversion (approx 83 bux)! Btw, do all spiders have wobbly issue?

I'am glad that I found this site before buying my first Ball python. Going to a Breeder was a lot better and safer in my mind. A few days before purchasing my 1st Ball, I went to my local pet shop and I've noticed the temps were off (50-cool-60hot) and the humidity was below 35% and they were in shedding. I told the store manager she turn the heat at least but when I went back 4-days later the the humidity and the temps were trouble again...I hate when I cannot help animals in need. I found a local breeder thank god and only paid 30 bucks and she also threw in a hide and 5 rat pinkies.

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Woah.. 35 bux for one? Thats like 42% of what I paid for my normal after conversion (approx 83 bux)! Btw, do all spiders have wobbly issue?

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Yes, all spiders and all combos that include have wobble to some degree. Some it will be hard to notice, but it is there. Mine doesn't display any wobble until you stick a rodent in front of him, then he gets a noticeable wobble.

Wobble can show up or go away at any time with spiders.

Yeah, 35 bux for this beautiful Normal:

http://i.imgur.com/HM8DuTw.jpg

I think I should just scoop her up while I think about which morphs I may want in the future. You always gotta have a Normal in the colony, right?

Well you don't have to, but they serve their purpose

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The stripe looks the best out of all of them. Looks healthy. The think is u can get them cheaper online plus shipping from a good breeder. I would go with the breeder if possible. Store pets seem to not be taken care of. Typically petco and pet smart animals.