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Problems with humidity in tank
Hey, I just got my baby ball python two weeks ago, and its time for him to shed! He hasnt shed in a few days even though pieces are coming off of him in chunks. I know the problem is my humidity, and I was wondering if you guys had any advice for me to keep it at a steady rate! I just bought one of the thermometers and humidity things in one but I also have another thermostat for the warm side of his tank.
I think what my problem is is that I live in the mountains and it can be fairly cold and dry outside. With the heat bulbs and under the cage pad on the tank stays at around 90 or the warm side and 78 on the cool side. But my problem is humidity. Ill spray the tank multiple time and I can get the humidity up to seventy, but it drops so quickly that it goes right back to 35 in about 10 minutes. He isn't shedding and im starting to worry. I read the forum on a bad shed and how to deal with it so im going to do that tonight, but i want to see if there is any thing I could do about the humidity in the long run.
My dad was thinking about just getting a normal humidifier for my room and that could help but I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions! Thank you!
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What substrate are you using?
If you get a humidifier, get a warm mist humidifier. They require less maintenance and are more hygienic.
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thanks so much both of these helped!! I'm using Aspen as the substrate. I'm definitely going to look into those ways of increasing temp and humidity!
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Re: Problems with humidity in tank
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Originally Posted by maggieehunt
thanks so much both of these helped!! I'm using Aspen as the substrate. I'm definitely going to look into those ways of increasing temp and humidity!
Aspen isn't great for humidity. I would suggest switching to Eco-Earth or cypress mulch.
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If your using a screen top, cover everywhere but where the lights go through with something. Airflow is your enemy when trying to maintain temps and humidity. You can use tinfoil, plastic wrap, even cardboard, and just tape it in place. you may even find that you can use lower wattage bulbs because you heat isn't leaving so fast. And lower wattage bulbs won't burn up the moisture as fast either.
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Ouuu, and also a shed hide!
I have a humidifier in my ball python's room, but it doesn't always do the trick on those really dry days. I also have a mesh lid that I am nervous to put anything on, because of the heat lamp and it being a fire hazard.
All you need for a shed box is a container and some sphagnum moss! There are instructions on the moss that you get from pet stores on how to properly hydrate it. It is quite inexpensive, and you really needn't use much.
I use a clean margarine container, cut a hole in the lid big enough for my BP (if you have a larger BP you may need to improvise on the container) and sand down the rough edge. I then put the damp moss inside, and VOILA shed hide. He uses it when he's going into shed every time :)
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So basically you only put a little bit of moss in the hide and the BP just sits on top of it inside of the hide? Do you usually keep it on the warm or cooler side of the tank? Right now my tank is pretty cramped as it is
Also, is it okay to just put a small container of moss in the tank open, not as a hide? I don't have much room for another hide so I want to just put a cup of moss on top of his cool hide. Will this be okay?
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Sooo I tried creating a shed hide... How's this look?
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The only place I could fit it in the tank... Its on the "cool" side
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Think this will work/help? Thanks! :)
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There isn't a fire hazard if you use tinfoil, being that tinfoil doesn't burn well.
Dev, that moist hide will work fine if your snake will use it. It may not due to it being translucent, remember that they prefer dark hides, or you may meed to move it to the warm side. Best thing is to cut down on the airflow so you can maintain a stable humidity all the time. I am of course operating on the assumtion your using a screen top from the petstore, since I couldn't see the whole tank in your picture. Tanks and screen tops make a good start for an enclosure, but they require some extra work to truly make them suitable for reptiles.
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This is what I have going right now. The foil covers everything except maybe 1/2" around the heat lamp and is held together with foil tape. I've seen him in the cool hide only twice I believe, usually just chills in the warm one. I don't think he'll use the shed hide honestly, but do you think it will at least help some with humidity? Or is it just taking up space?
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You can place the moss around the hot side hide and even a little in it
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Thanks! Yeah I re-did the moss a few days ago so theres much more surrounding the sides of the cool hide as well as the hot. Also added a mound surrounding most of the water dish. Do you think the "shed hide" will help w humidity at least?
I know my guy really wants to shed but the humidity keeps dipping to 30-50%. I just added damp towels on TOP of the tin foil which is on the top of the tank... Really hoping this will finally hold in some moisture. Tell ya though, soon as this damn shed happens, buddy is getting a huge meal and a fresh habitat immediately.
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Just keep misting the moss around the tank. If he's that deep into shed put some of the moss right into his warm hide.
Yeh eco earth saved my sanity when mine was in a tank. Again buy the bag, it's a lot easier. The brick it a complete pain in the butt. The bag is only a buck or two more than the brick.
Brick you need to completely wet then let dry out cuz you can't put it in there enclosure soaking wet.
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Re: Problems with humidity in tank
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Originally Posted by Dev_DeCoste
Thanks! Yeah I re-did the moss a few days ago so theres much more surrounding the sides of the cool hide as well as the hot. Also added a mound surrounding most of the water dish. Do you think the "shed hide" will help w humidity at least?
I know my guy really wants to shed but the humidity keeps dipping to 30-50%. I just added damp towels on TOP of the tin foil which is on the top of the tank... Really hoping this will finally hold in some moisture. Tell ya though, soon as this damn shed happens, buddy is getting a huge meal and a fresh habitat immediately.
Mist as much as needed to keep the humidity up to atleast60-80 on the reg,that's what I did for my guys first shed,no problems at all.
why would u put the damp towels on top of the tin foil,lol...I put my damp towel directly on top the screen. I would think putting the damp towel on the screen and then covering it with the foil if anything would help to keep the damp towels moisture in the tank..I don't know what the damp towel is doing on the foil. Seems pointless.
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Oh it felt/feels extremely pointless.. I'm just tryin anything at this point man. His eyes have been milky for several days now so he should shed fairly soon. I drench the sides of the tank once every few hours as well as mist the substrate, moss, etc.. Been at 60-68% for the past couple hours *knock on wood*
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Dude just keep misting the tank,remove the tin foil on one side and place a wett towel,not soaked an drenched but when on top the screen.. That's how mine is set up..I wet every morning before work and when I get home..on avg I mist one time a day. But when in shed I mist as many as I can to keep the humidity up as high as I can ,preferably around the 70-80 range..plus where do you have your hygrometer set? Maybe it's set in the wrong place...
i also added a bowl bowl filled with damp shpagnum moss next to the water bowl to my tank and that's helping big time..being I have aspen I don't wanna leave the moss on it cause aspen is known to mold,that's what I have read atleast. Hence why I keep it stuffed in a bowl
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