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My Pied Has Some Issues

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  • 11-02-2013, 10:47 AM
    SnakeMom71
    My Pied Has Some Issues
    Hi there everyone!

    I need some help with my pied ball python, Wraith. He's been having some weird feeding issues and I'm starting to get worried. He's a yearling and weighs 444 grams. He's very, very shy and I've only been able to feed him at night, when he comes out of his hide. So far he refuses to eat anything other than rat fuzzies. I feed f/t, and it seems to scare him when I make the rat do the zombie dance, so I just leave it in there with him and shut the door. I thought he should be taking bigger meals and tried feeding him pups, but he refused. Last week he shed so I didn't feed him, and when I went to feed him a fuzzy again last night he was out and showed some interest, but when I went to check on him later the fuzzy was still there. I'm baffled. I have three other ball pythons--one will only eat ASF's, one will eat anything you throw in there with her, and the third just broke a summer long hunger strike by going back to rats, so I'm familiar with BP feeding issues. But Wraith is the first really shy one I've seen--and the only one of my snakes who isn't an aggressive feeder, so I don't quite know what to do. I've only had him for two months now, so maybe he's taking longer to settle in? Or could it be the time of year for him? He's in half of a divided Animal Plastics T-8, and my lemon blast--the one who eats everything--is in the other half. Temps are good--80 ambient, with a hot side of 90. I'm getting worried about the little guy. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
  • 11-02-2013, 10:56 AM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    You have a 444 gram BP and your feeding him fuzzies,that's a problem right there. You should have stopped feeding him fuzzies 350-375 grams ago. I'm no pro,but I'm going by what I've done for mine and what I have read around here.

    good luck
  • 11-02-2013, 11:32 AM
    SnakeMom71
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    I know he should be eating larger meals, but so far he's refused anything larger than a fuzzy. I was wondering how I can get him to take larger meals?
  • 11-02-2013, 11:37 AM
    Crazymonkee
    I would definitely try feeding a live small adult mouse. Fuzzies are not going to do anything for him at that age. It's beyond time to try other things.
    Do you have a pic of him? Why did you start with fuzzies?

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  • 11-02-2013, 11:41 AM
    SnakeMom71
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    Unfortunately I don't have a picture of him, and I started with rat fuzzies because that's what his breeder said he was eating when I got him, which was on August 6th, and then he was 391 grams. I'll try a small live mouse--should I wait a week, or try again tonight?
  • 11-02-2013, 11:50 AM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    This is my girl just for body condition comparison for you... she was 5 months here
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/02/u6u5u7yg.jpg
    I would not use that breeder again if he was feeding a yearling fuzzies
    Try a small mouse in a couple days

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  • 11-02-2013, 11:51 AM
    Crazymonkee
    She easily takes an adult mouse sometimes 2

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  • 11-02-2013, 12:11 PM
    SnakeMom71
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    She looks good! and thank you so much! I'll try again in a few days--and keep my fingers crossed! And once he starts eating live mice consistently, how do I work him up to rats again? He's definitely a challenging one!
  • 11-02-2013, 12:21 PM
    Crazymonkee
    That girl there was my first and let me tell you she broke me in real good!! Got her as a hatchling and refused every f/t meal I tried for 2 months. I went with live and bam eats every 5 days without hesitation. But only mice, tried switching to rats... nope refused 3 weeks but the following week ate 2 mice!! So I know she was hungry. Tried ASF rats nope no go with that either.
    plop a mouse in there... coiled in seconds.
    Once your guy has some weight... you can try to switch again.
    What size rats do you have available?

    Ty for the comment! She caught up quickly once she started eating!!
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  • 11-02-2013, 12:26 PM
    SnakeMom71
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    So once he's eating mice, I can feed him every 5 days to build up some weight? I've got these f/t rat sizes: fuzzies, pups, weaned, smalls, small/mediums, and medium adults.
  • 11-02-2013, 12:37 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Awesome, good selection. Yes every 5 days will be fine until he put on a lil weight. Then I'd go with the small rats

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  • 11-02-2013, 12:46 PM
    SnakeMom71
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    Ok, cool! And thank you again so SO much! I feel much better now that there's a plan in motion!
  • 11-02-2013, 12:48 PM
    Crazymonkee
    No problem :) if you don't mind... keep us posted

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  • 11-02-2013, 12:49 PM
    SnakeMom71
    My Pied Has Some Issues
    I sure will! There's a pet store nearby that sells live feeder mice--I'll let you know how it goes!
  • 11-02-2013, 04:13 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Try live..my ghost BP is 188 grams maybe a little more and is eating medium-lrg med size mice with no problems.. I actually fed him a live rat today about the size of a large mouse and that was no problem for him..live seems to always work.

    there is the rat I fed to my ghost who is maybe about 200 grams... Next to him two hoppers for my 65 gram black pastel.

    http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0c7888d0.jpg
  • 11-03-2013, 01:09 PM
    SnakeMom71
    My Pied Has Some Issues
    Thank you! Your cat looks like he wants those rats!
  • 11-03-2013, 02:25 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    Re: My Pied Has Some Issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeMom71 View Post
    Thank you! Your cat looks like he wants those rats!

    He is a SHE !!!! :mad:

    ;) Her name is Aimee,but yeah she was grillin them ...
  • 11-03-2013, 10:34 PM
    Badgemash
    Just a thought, I have one girl that has never liked eating appropriate sized meals. She likes her food small and that's just how she is (she also seems scared of larger prey items) so I just let her eat multiple small meals. As long as the total volume of food is appropriate then it doesn't really matter if it's in the form of a single big rat or a five course meal of mini rats (or whatever is appropriate for your animal).
  • 11-04-2013, 12:16 AM
    SnakeMom71
    My Pied Has Some Issues
    Thanks for the thought!! Just picked up some live mice today--I'm planning to give it a try this Tuesday--just hoping he eats! And sorry for thinking you were a he, Aimee! My apologies!😃
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