Gonna get a corn snake (Need Advice)

So, After the poll I made http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ng-Snake-first
I have decided to get a corn snake. I just want to have advice on it's care and stuff. I just want to make sure I really know what I am doing.
I'm gonna be getting he/she at the Whiteplains expo on Saturday.

Here is a picture of the setup:
http://i.imgur.com/Etk2qxt.jpg

They are pretty easy to care for. Corn snakes are movers though. Mine is constanly exploring so while I did start me hatchling off in a 10 gallon he quickly outgrew it. I would swap those lamps out for a UTH with thermostat, they need belly heat, plus with those lamps the tank will get too warm. Their ambient temp is cooler than what a BP needs. I keep my ambient in the 70s with a hot spot between 85-87. I would also put a background on the back and sides, especially if your getting a baby. I keep mine in a vision cage with Sani-chips for the bedding. Handling is pretty straight forward and they are garbage disposals, I have never had an issue with feeding. The one I currently have does go off feeding while he is in shed, but other than that he eats large mice every 7 days. I gave him some climbing branches as well as some fake plants to crawl around on. http://lllreptile.com/info/library/a.../-/corn-snake/
https://www.cornsnake.net/care-sheets.html

Looks good the 2 lights are to much though I would keep the smaller one and swap the larger one for a uth. Thats how my 20g long tank is set up. I have a fake tree, 2 hides, and a water bowl and I have him on aspen mulch. A 10g is fine for a baby corn but I quickly moved mine up to a 20g long.

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Looks good the 2 lights are to much though I would keep the smaller one and swap the larger one for a uth. Thats how my 20g long tank is set up. I have a fake tree, 2 hides, and a water bowl and I have him on aspen mulch. A 10g is fine for a baby corn but I quickly moved mine up to a 20g long.

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I am doing a day/night thing. Not both at same time. Ya, He/she will be moved up pretty quickly when it outgrows it. I have a BP in a 20 gallon who will be outgrowing it in a few months. Do you know if humidity will ever be a problem? I have done research but there are a lot of mixed opinions?

Humidity is easy for a corn...generally as long as the water dish is full...they do well with the humidity that is in your house. I lightly mist my enclosure once a week...

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www.cornsnakes.com is AMAZING! :)

I have a corn as well. You will probably want some more private hides (those half logs are not dark enough; your snake will most likely spend her days under the substrate like that). I don't think you *need* to cover the sides and back with dark paper - although you can if you'd like, of course. My corn personally doesn't care either way. They also like to climb I find, from my own and other's experiences :P that foliage is a good idea!

The day/night cycle is a good idea too, as long as it doesn't get too hot (as mentioned above). I wouldn't use anything over a 13W bulb myself, especially with that size tank, unless your room temperature is particularly below average. The nice things about corns too is they can handle a night time drop in temperature, as low as 15C (59F) I have heard. However I'd definitely get a UTH with thermostat and set it at 85F though, again as mentioned already.

They are quite active snakes once comfortable in their surroundings, so you should have a blast. Best of luck to you!!


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Please, please, PLEASE get some screen locks for that lid! Or at least put some heavy weights/books on every corner for the time being. You'd be surprised how corns can push those things, as thin/weak as they look. They aren't easy to find either! ;)

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Please, please, PLEASE get some screen locks for that lid! Or at least put some heavy weights/books on every corner for the time being. You'd be surprised how corns can push those things, as thin/weak as they look. They aren't easy to find either! ;)[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah thats Important forgot about that


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I've been testing the light temps. The 75W day light does about 80. The 50W Night light goes down to 75.

Are you not using a UTH/thermostat at all? Or you are, but suplimenting with lighting? The belly heat from UTHs are a must for proper digestion - as you will notice in some regurge posts on that other forum.
You really don't need lights with heat at all, in my opinion. It will get too warm for your corn. They aren't like ball pythons; they are from North America and tropical temperatures are too high for them :P I find that mine prefers an ambient air temperature around 73F (but some may differ of course).

I use LEDs for my lighting(cheap to buy/run, last long, a few go a long way). That way I get all the heat needed from a UTH.

I don't really see what what the UTH is so needed. I've had my BP for two months now and I have only used heat lamps. He eats great and had never regurgitated. I've heard that a lot of breeders just decide to heat the whole room to proper temps rather then use anything and they still become successful.

Advice?
Feel free to use half log hides (they aren't worth the extra cleaning to me personally) but, add in some "cave" type hides and maybe some fake leafy cover. Young corns are pretty timid (although get ready to laugh when they bluff and try to convince you they are a rattlesnake).
Also the gf's kids corns seem to really like to climb.

I think UTHs are needed because the air temperature required for corns is much less than for ball pythons, and so it would take a lot more to heat the bottom of the cage than is necessary/required for the corn snake.

I went for a couple of weeks with just a lamp because I was waiting for my thermostat to come in. Although my corn never regurged and her warm side stayed around 7-80F, she wasn't as active as she normally is. With a tank that size, to get a bulb that would get the warm side to 85F where it should be, it would heat up the entire tank too much I think. Corns need about a 10F difference from one end to the other, just like ball pythons.
But it's just a suggestion!

I will warn you though that on that corn snake forum I posted earlier the majority are against using lamps as a heat source :P

I'm gonna buy a temp gun or something like that in the expo and use the heat bulbs. If they don't work out I'm gonna go to my local pet supply shop. They have UTH there. Thanks for all the help guys :D. I'm gonna make a new thread and post pics when I get he/she tomorrow. I can't wait for it lol