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  • 10-30-2013, 07:40 AM
    Phantomtip
    Burrowing BP
    So I just got my girl back. She was in a nasty filthy cage with no heat or humidity. I got the cage cleaned out really well and sterilized, boiled the furnature and gave her a new water bowl she can climb in to, and clean soft substrate. I have only had her back about a day and ahalf. I was checking on her just now and she has burrowed most of her body down into the substrate under her hide. I needed a flashlight to see a bit of her pattern to find her. Is she too cold and is trying to get closer to the heat? They also took her thermometers and hygrometers and kept them. I will be replacing EVERYTHING on Friday. I also need to find my thermo/hygrometer that I keep in this house and put it in with her as a temp. Do you think shes too cool or looking for humidity? They real uth and thermostat are gone and they "leant" me an old human heat pad with a crappy rheostat I gave them when I upgraded to a thermostat. I do have a lightweight black blanket over her so she feels secure and my silly cat wont bother her. The room she is in right now till I get the proper set up stays around 76-78.
  • 10-30-2013, 07:50 AM
    Crazymonkee
    Without having the actual temp it's hard to say.... I'd up the room heat a lil more

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  • 10-30-2013, 08:55 AM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    I have to wait to get stuff. This is why I don't like moving. I had to stock food for my husband son and I. I used to have everything for her and now have nothing. I have to go get everything again and it looks like a trip to Petsmart and online is in order. Also to Lowes for some stuff. Friday can't come soon enough. At least she now has some heat and humidity compared to before.
  • 10-30-2013, 09:46 AM
    Crazymonkee
    Well then I would definitely up the room temp a few degrees, it wouldn't hurt. I would say she's looking for heat more than humidity, but you could mist the tank every now and then.

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  • 10-30-2013, 11:12 AM
    NH93
    It's really difficult to tell without the equipment (as you've already stated), so for now - if it were me - I'd just make sure the room is nice and warm. Friday is only two days away, so I think she'll be ok until then.
    She could just want to burrow, too. My BP tried doing this when I added in a different substrate, and my corn does this on and off all the time; warm and cool side.

    Good luck with everything, and try not to worry! :)
  • 10-30-2013, 11:18 AM
    200xth
    Edit: Nvm
  • 10-30-2013, 06:24 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Yeah found one of my thermo/hygrometers. The temp is 77. I moved her cage to a warmer room, taped a blanket around all sides except a small area in front,. I also taped tin foil shiny side into the tank to reflect heat on most of the screen and have added a 60 watt red light. This is all temporary. Its about 80 in the living room so thats where I moved her. Humidity is sitting at 60%. Its just the stupid temp I need up. I am going over and seeing if its risen any. Just. Checked it. Temp has gone up to 82. Ok now feeling a little better. I should have thought about the temp coming up slowly. It takes a while to heat a big ole glass cage.
  • 10-30-2013, 06:39 PM
    NYHC4LIFE8899
    IMO,she's burrowing to get warm any way possible..I seem to rarely say anything useful according to someone,but I hope this is helpful,lol
  • 10-30-2013, 06:46 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Yes that was helpful. I have moved her to the living room which is around 80 roght now. Her temp is now at 84. No sign of emergence yet lol. I think I hit on a quick fix till I get the right stuff for her. Humidity is still holding at 60%. Does anyone have experience with hydor hydrokable and hydroset for belly heat? It gets chilly where I live in the winter. I am also not a fan of the cold seeing as it makes me hurt really bad. I will just keep monitoring and adjusting for now.
  • 10-30-2013, 08:17 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899 View Post
    IMO,she's burrowing to get warm any way possible..I seem to rarely say anything useful according to someone,but I hope this is helpful,lol

    Yes that was useful

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  • 10-30-2013, 08:20 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Good to hear ya got the temps up a bit. Sorry I have no knowledge on the things you asked about, maybe someone will

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  • 10-30-2013, 08:30 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    From what I have researched it works on aquariums and terrariums, wet or dry under the substrate. I have read some reviews amd some people think its great and some hate it. I am really thinking of using this in her enclosure instead of a uth. Also I'm not good at wiring things so all I do woth this is plug ot into the hydroset (the thermostat for it) and set the temp. I will also be getting 2 digital thermo hygrometer for the et up 1 on each side. If I do any loghts it will be for display purposes only not for heat, and 2 reptishelter 3in1 cave large. Plus decor to make it look realistic, and hopefully hold more humidity. I also plan to insulate 3 sides of the enclosure after putting on a background on those 3 sides.
  • 10-30-2013, 08:43 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Phantomtip View Post
    From what I have researched it works on aquariums and terrariums, wet or dry under the substrate. I have read some reviews amd some people think its great and some hate it. I am really thinking of using this in her enclosure instead of a uth. Also I'm not good at wiring things so all I do woth this is plug ot into the hydroset (the thermostat for it) and set the temp. I will also be getting 2 digital thermo hygrometer for the et up 1 on each side. If I do any loghts it will be for display purposes only not for heat, and 2 reptishelter 3in1 cave large. Plus decor to make it look realistic, and hopefully hold more humidity. I also plan to insulate 3 sides of the enclosure after putting on a background on those 3 sides.

    There's no wiring with a uth and thermostat either...you plug the power cord of the uth into the thermostat then plug the thermostat into the wall or power strip.
    Are you planning on using it the entire length of the tank?

    I would not put any heat source directly under the substrate, some snakes burrow down in it

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  • 10-30-2013, 08:56 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    I was thinking of putting some tiles from our bathroom project over the cable and then the substrate. That way she's not right on the heat if she burrows again. I took her out earlier and looks like she might be getting ready to shed. Her belly is going pink.
  • 10-30-2013, 09:14 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Bathroom tiles would be too thick... it's a lot of trouble compared to just getting the uth and thermostat

    And you only need a hot spot. The whole tank can't be the same temp

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  • 10-31-2013, 01:04 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    I would only do half the enclosure so she has a cool side and hot side. I really don't want to have lights except for viewing/asthetic purposes. Plus they lower the humidity too much. Ugh I really don't like uths because every time I get one it falls off then I have a fire hazard.
  • 10-31-2013, 01:22 PM
    SteveySingle
    glad you got your snake back!
  • 10-31-2013, 01:27 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Make sure the bottom of the tank is clean before you put the uth on...
    What is the ambient temp of the room the tank is in?

    I really don't see the other working, the heat is goin to have to go through the thick tile then the substrate
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  • 10-31-2013, 02:58 PM
    Phantomtip
    Ambient temp right now in the living room os 78. In jer cage the temp in around 85. I can't wait fpr tomorrow. The humidity is about 50. I am keeping a sharp eye on it. I have that one heat pad under and a 60 watt on her till I can get to the store and get what I need. I might have to mist her moss this afternoon because she is getting ready to shed. Her belly was pink when I checked her last noght. I would like her to eat tomorrow before she goes blue. I just really need to get things stable in there for her.
  • 10-31-2013, 04:39 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Phantomtip View Post
    Ambient temp right now in the living room os 78. In jer cage the temp in around 85. I can't wait fpr tomorrow. The humidity is about 50. I am keeping a sharp eye on it. I have that one heat pad under and a 60 watt on her till I can get to the store and get what I need. I might have to mist her moss this afternoon because she is getting ready to shed. Her belly was pink when I checked her last noght. I would like her to eat tomorrow before she goes blue. I just really need to get things stable in there for her.

    Did you decide how you're going to do it? As long as you have the hotspot of 90 the ambient room temp of 78 will be fine and you won't need a lamp

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  • 10-31-2013, 08:59 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Still thinking. Its 88 on her hot side right now. She's being pissy. I got her food and when she finally struck it jumped after it got away from me. So bad strike. Then I gave it a good tap with the hammer and she didn't want it. I left it in there for about 30 min and finally took it out and put it in the freezer. Then she got mad at me for giving her fresh water. Gonna leave her be till after shed. I will just do misting and fresh water.
  • 10-31-2013, 09:30 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Should of just let her go at it herself again. One missed strick doesn't mean she can't do it on her own. I don't hold on to mine.... plop it in the enclosure and let her do her thing, just keep a watch on things.
    They know how to hunt... they're not as fragile as people make them out to be. As long as the prey is appropriately sized.
    They do it all by themselves in the wild :)
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  • 10-31-2013, 10:10 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    After not being around her for almost 2 yrs I'm a little gun shy. I need to trust my instincts again with her. At least I freeze the darn thing before it could start stinking lol. I can return it to the store and get a new one after she sheds. She should be hungry then. She was more interested in getting out of the cage than anything else. I think with her about to go into shed and moving and insulating her cage yesterday might have stressed her. She hissed at me for the first time tonight. So that's why I'm going to leave her be for a while and just give her fresh water and mist her a bit. She is staying around 88 degrees on hot side and 55% humidity so thats a good thing. I just can't wait till tomorrow when I can get the stuff I need for her. Going to do some misting here in a bit and leave her heat light on all night. It just sucks that she is stressed right now. Oh well the only remedy for it is time and being left alone.
  • 10-31-2013, 10:16 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Yep let her be for a lil, especially if goin into shed. After the shed, start again.
    Good luck, keep us posted!
    PS how do return the prey?

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  • 10-31-2013, 10:24 PM
    bcardi151
    I have a ball python male in my snake room and he burrows all the time. I have room heat to 85 and flex watt for the hot side.He is just shy also I have to leave him over night with his F/T rat that is the only way he will eat .Sorry about the story but
    as long as the temp are good your snake should be ok.
  • 10-31-2013, 10:27 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Wow 85 for an ambient is pretty high

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  • 10-31-2013, 10:58 PM
    bcardi151
    Re: Burrowing BP
    I should said i have the heat to shut of at 85 but the snake are on the other side of the room.There side is around 78 sorry if i miss lead anyone.
  • 10-31-2013, 11:28 PM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: Burrowing BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcardi151 View Post
    I should said i have the heat to shut of at 85 but the snake are on the other side of the room.There side is around 78 sorry if i miss lead anyone.

    Oh Ok, that makes sense :)

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  • 10-31-2013, 11:45 PM
    Phantomtip
    Re: Burrowing BP
    I know the owner and they are short of rats because theu are so expensive. I will take ot up there frozen and trade it for one after she sheds. Before I left her even in shed shewas a little shy but never hissed at me. If I didn't know better I would swear they switched her for their aggressive male thats a het for something just cant remember. Just gonna leave her till shed is done. Her belly was pink yesterday and I don't know exactly when it turned. Gonna keep her heat and humidity up and make her comfy for now. Except tomorrow gotta stress her again to put on proper belly heat. I am going to leave the blankets on though. Good insulation for now till I get a good enclosure for her.
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