Calico vs. Sugar

So all you experts, what's the difference between a sugar and calico?

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if you want one, i suggest you search for both calico and sugar until you find one you really like, and then get it no matter if its a calico or sugar.


its either identical or very, very similar.

Well my buddy is selling a 750g sugar female for 650 and can't get it moved. He's got 80 snakes and trying to downsize to just one rack and told me if I help him build some rat racks I can have her for 375 and give him $50 payments. I'm getting her regardless but was just wondering the difference.

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It can be a bit of a heated debate, but personally I think they're like Lessers and Butters. The same mutation from different lines. You'll get nice looking ones and not so nice looking ones from both lines with individuals with the most amount of white being in the highest demand.

Ya that's what I figured. She's not the highest white but not the lowest. I guess about normal. So I figured 375 on payments was fantastic. About 50-75 a month. Also gonna let me take a 200g bumblebee female for 200 on same payments. Figured why not. I've always wanted a calico.

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I've been checking out both a lot lately. and while they both seem to have the same appearance sugars seem to more consitantly throw higher whites. I've seen a pile of calicos so low white they have little if any on them. I could count on one hand how many sugars I have seen like that.

Same mutation, different likes like MarkS said.
However, I do think the sugar has been better selected, thus more consistent looks (black back, better overall color, high whites) in my opinion.

I have a calico myself and think sugar is the 'better' of the two. At least these days.
I've seen many different calicos and sugars. In my opinion, a nice sugar is way better than a nice calico.

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Same mutation, different likes like MarkS said.
However, I do think the sugar has been better selected,

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That's a good way of saying it. I also have seen better looking sugar, but I think it has more to do with the originator taking more care in selecting what the founder was bred to rather then any difference in the mutation itself.

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That's her guys.

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This is a single gene Calico female that I bought for $310. I will put her up against any Sugar out there. The point being that I too think they are 2 lines of the same morph. The price premium for a Sugar is unnecessary if you are willing to look for the right Calico.

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I think you are getting a sweet deal on the gal your getting, especially for her size. Not as much white as I like to see, but that can be improved with the right male bred to her.

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Originally Posted by Royal Hijinx

This is a single gene Calico female that I bought for $310. I will put her up against any Sugar out there. The point being that I too think they are 2 lines of the same morph. The price premium for a Sugar is unnecessary if you are willing to look for the right Calico.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps910e8cfa.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psfe1ef771.jpg

I think you are getting a sweet deal on the gal your getting, especially for her size. Not as much white as I like to see, but that can be improved with the right male bred to her.

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Ya I thought the price was a good price. And your girl is amazing. I plan on putting a black pewter to her. World of ball python has nothing on black pastel sugars or pastel, black pastel, sugars, so hopefully she takes in the future..your girl is amazing by the way.

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Thanks, I like her.

I think a Black Pastel Calider (Black Pastel Spider X Sugar/Calico) could be really awesome.

I like calico better personally. It seems to have more orange and highlighting and blushing. Sugars tend to have the higher whites though. (This is all from what i've seen/my experience, not saying its 100% true). I chose to add calico to my collection because thats what i personally like better, sugars are nice too though. :gj:

I also agree with what mark/satomi/jinx said

I'm hoping she can get up to size quick and go with my black pewter (black pastel, pastel)

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Thanks for posting this! I have been debating all week long on which way to go. A friend of mine picked up a pastel calico at the show last Sunday and I really liked him. So I was thinking of getting a male also to go with my pewter, but then I saw the pastel sugar and really was having a hard time deciding. But I think I really like the pastel calico and if I can find a really good male next year that will be what I pick up.

Awesome. Maybe I'll have a pastel sugar for ya Amber ;) lol

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Originally Posted by Royal Hijinx

This is a single gene Calico female that I bought for $310. I will put her up against any Sugar out there. The point being that I too think they are 2 lines of the same morph. The price premium for a Sugar is unnecessary if you are willing to look for the right Calico.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps910e8cfa.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psfe1ef771.jpg

I think you are getting a sweet deal on the gal your getting, especially for her size. Not as much white as I like to see, but that can be improved with the right male bred to her.

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Wow, she is beautiful! Stunning. Can't imagine some pastel calicos from her! Ha

This is our proven breeder male calico YB :) not the highest quality calico, but I'm just happy to see some white on him. Scored this guy and a proven breeder killer bee for $300 each :)
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