How can you tell the differants between a bcc and bci when they are little

I have a few boas but i still have a problem telling the differants.:confusd:

Can you post pics of them?

I feel I can pick them out pretty well most of the time but some can still be a little tricky. Main difference for me for BCC vs BCI is saddle shape and amount of saddles, head structure, and tail coloring (pending the morph of the BCI). Of course this depends on the locality of BCC and BCI.

Lots of practice. If you have some pictures some people on here could help, but typically if you have a BCC you would know from the price. BCC are generally more expensive, and typically sold advertising they are BCC or "true redtails". If a boa in a petstore is sold as a "red tail boa" chances are it's a BCI.

There are a few general differences, but these differences aren't set in stone. Some BCIs will have BCC traits, and vice versa. Really it mostly comes down to getting used to looking at them side by side, but even then without knowing the lineage you can't typically guarantee if it's a BCC.

So here are a few traits, in general.
-BCC will have fewer saddles, (this is a really bad way to tell the difference, lol)
-BCC saddles often have "peaks" so their saddles will look like this: } { and not like this: ) ( - imagine the dark saddle being between the brackets and parenthesis. The light in between the saddles on a BCI will normally be more circular.
-Color on a BCC will typically be much richer. The reds won't brown out as much as they age and they tend do get kind of golden in color.
-BCC will normally grow a little slower and end up a little larger, but that doesn't really help in identifying them.

So here is one of those exceptions. This is my friend's BCI, but she has the peaked saddles. But she is a BCI.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/z...y/b50b2149.jpg

And here is my aberrant BCI as a baby without the peaked saddles (though she has some freaky saddles!):
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/z...y/IMG_0591.jpg

You can also see that she doesn't have a really red tail.

To add to Shann's exception, here's another fun one with my low expression jungle morph Colombian male when he was a little dude: some BCI babies have super nice red/orange tails which can be misleading. Though my boy's tail still looks vastly different than the deep reds of a Suri or Guyana's tail, it still could be misleading to those who are unfamiliar with IDing BCC vs BCI.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...11FullBody.jpg

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

To add to Shann's exception, here's another fun one with my low expression jungle morph Colombian male when he was a little dude: some BCI babies have super nice red/orange tails which can be misleading. Though my boy's tail still looks vastly different than the deep reds of a Suri or Guyana's tail, it still could be misleading to those who are unfamiliar with IDing BCC vs BCI.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...11FullBody.jpg

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Wow, gorgeous!! That's a perfect example of how pretty some of their tails can be. And that's one that would have thrown me off for quite a while on telling the two apart until I got more practice.

A bcc would also have most if not all saddles with peaks on them, not just 1 or 2.

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Originally Posted by hypnotixdmp

A bcc would also have most if not all saddles with peaks on them, not just 1 or 2.

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Not necessarily, Iquitos and Pucallpas usually have dished saddles: I hardly see these guys with high peaks.

Thanks everyone this helps. I woud post pics but i have not found out how to do so.

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Originally Posted by bcardi151

Thanks everyone this helps. I woud post pics but i have not found out how to do so.

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Best way is to upload to photobucket and copy/paste the link

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

Not necessarily, Iquitos and Pucallpas usually have dished saddles: I hardly see these guys with high peaks.

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X2 bow ties instead of widow peaks :) love Peruvians.

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

To add to Shann's exception, here's another fun one with my low expression jungle morph Colombian male when he was a little dude: some BCI babies have super nice red/orange tails which can be misleading. Though my boy's tail still looks vastly different than the deep reds of a Suri or Guyana's tail, it still could be misleading to those who are unfamiliar with IDing BCC vs BCI.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...11FullBody.jpg

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Can i ask what traits in this specific snake lead you to believe he is a low expression jungle rather than a normal wild type? The reason i ask is i have a 0.1 that i believe is a low expression jungle that looks extremely similar. Her father was a Jungle (no question about it), and she has some of the traits i see as possibly being a jungle. she has two abberant "x" shaped saddles, her tail saddles are all connected, almost to make a single red stripe, her dorsal area is a lighter more cream colored than her sides, especially noticeable at the tail as with yours. She also has a eye of the needle type marking in her head arrow. The reason i ask is i have posted and everyone says they see no jungle at all. All i can figure is maybe the pictures dont do her colors justice. Any thoughts? Awesome snake by the way, mine has a very similar tail, they both have great colors!