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Quality of a fire.

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  • 10-08-2013, 02:17 PM
    BHReptiles
    Quality of a fire.
    I have the opportunity to purchase this girl. I think she looks pretty good with a sexy headstamp. She's not as "normal" colored as some fires and it's pretty clear that she's a fire. So...I want your opinions. Rate her on a 1-10 scale, please, with 1 being butt ugly and 10 being SUPER AWESOME. I'm not very well-versed in the fire mutation...so that's why I'm asking for opinions. I only want quality in my collection.

    These pictures are from the breeder and he gets full credit.

    https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...a5&oe=5255996A

    https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...0a&oe=5255A7E3
  • 10-08-2013, 03:43 PM
    Trackstrong83
    I'd say 9 :) she's very clean especially towards the back end, and very bright overall. I like her a lot!
  • 10-08-2013, 03:56 PM
    STjepkes
    I'd definitely giver her an 8-9! She is fantastic in my book :gj:
  • 10-08-2013, 04:02 PM
    Mike41793
    Quality of a fire.
    Nice reduced pattern, some blushing, good headstamp and color. I'd say a solid 8 :gj:
  • 10-08-2013, 04:26 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Thanks everyone! I rated her a solid 8 to a low 9 on my own personal scale. I love her color. The only thing I would like better is COMPLETELY reduced. However, I think she's pretty darn good. Best fire I've seen in a long time that I could actually see in my collection!
  • 10-08-2013, 07:13 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    A solid 8. She has great blushing and I really like the couple of marks behind her headstamp. Congrats and thanks for sharing.
  • 10-08-2013, 08:29 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Clean pattern, mildly reduced with a nice vibrant coloration. The head stamp is always a bonus in ky book. I would say an easy 7.5-8. Would be good for alot of projects...
  • 10-08-2013, 08:40 PM
    angllady2
    A clean solid 8.

    She's got a killer headstamp, that's the first thing. She's got the bright tan/yellow coloring that trademarks a fire. She got strong blushing, deep red like it should be.

    She doesn't carry a lot of belly flames like some do, but she has a few and that trait is easily bred for. All in all a very solid animal that would be a great addition to any collection.

    Gale
  • 10-08-2013, 09:06 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    A clean solid 8.

    She's got a killer headstamp, that's the first thing. She's got the bright tan/yellow coloring that trademarks a fire. She got strong blushing, deep red like it should be.

    She doesn't carry a lot of belly flames like some do, but she has a few and that trait is easily bred for. All in all a very solid animal that would be a great addition to any collection.

    Gale

    Here is her future boyfriend ;)

    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/98673/1...JEhwqFQ5md.jpg

    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/98673/1...1sMkKcjl6T.jpg


    I can already picture their offspring...
  • 10-08-2013, 11:53 PM
    ClarkT
    I like all fires. This one doesn't necessarily wow me. I'd say 6 or 7.
  • 10-09-2013, 12:02 AM
    STjepkes
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ClarkT View Post
    I like all fires. This one doesn't necessarily wow me. I'd say 6 or 7.

    Well, what do you look for in a fire that this one isn't bringing to the table??
  • 10-09-2013, 06:21 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BHReptiles View Post
    Here is her future boyfriend ;)

    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/98673/1...JEhwqFQ5md.jpg

    http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/98673/1...1sMkKcjl6T.jpg


    I can already picture their offspring...

    Those two will make some stunners of babies. Best of luck with this pairing:D
  • 10-09-2013, 08:42 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by V2 HeX View Post
    Those two will make some stunners of babies. Best of luck with this pairing:D

    Yeah...I'm really hoping to see some good babies from them when she's old enough. I've also got another reduced, banded normal with nice blushing and flames that he'll be paired with.
  • 10-09-2013, 08:53 PM
    Mike41793
    Quality of a fire.
    Those two would make nice FYB's i bet. I like that YB a lot
  • 10-09-2013, 08:54 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BHReptiles View Post
    Yeah...I'm really hoping to see some good babies from them when she's old enough. I've also got another reduced, banded normal with nice blushing and flames that he'll be paired with.

    Oh nice! Hopefully some of that blushing rubs off into the babies. Right now im trying to beef up my visual pied male and his het for pied girlfriend, she wont be ready this season though. May need to look into another visual female. Great now.im thinking...this is always dangerous LOL. I cant wait to see some of these fire babies, how big is your bluahed female?
  • 10-09-2013, 09:05 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Those two would make nice FYB's i bet. I like that YB a lot

    \

    I hope they do! I REALLY love this yb. I'm breeding him (yb het hypo) to a het hypo female in a couple of weeks in hopes of a yb hypo female from him!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by V2 HeX View Post
    Oh nice! Hopefully some of that blushing rubs off into the babies. Right now im trying to beef up my visual pied male and his het for pied girlfriend, she wont be ready this season though. May need to look into another visual female. Great now.im thinking...this is always dangerous LOL. I cant wait to see some of these fire babies, how big is your bluahed female?

    She is about 1000g. She went off feed for awhile, but she's back on feed with a vengence. I'm still debating on breeding her for a late clutch, or holding off until next season. Here's a picture of "fluffy"

    http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4033/s398.jpg
    .
    http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1092/stq8.jpg
  • 10-09-2013, 09:29 PM
    Mike41793
    Quality of a fire.
    Just my 2 cents... Down the road it would be a good idea to throw a male with the enchi gene in it to fluffy ;)
  • 10-09-2013, 09:43 PM
    BHReptiles
    Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Just my 2 cents... Down the road it would be a good idea to throw a male with the enchi gene in it to fluffy ;)

    Already thought of that ;) I'm just trying to find a sexy enchi! I'm super picky when it comes to the gene. So once I find said enchi/enchi combo...it will immediately have a date with Fluffy. If I breed her this season, it'll be to a firefly possible yb male.
  • 10-09-2013, 10:53 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BHReptiles View Post
    \

    I hope they do! I REALLY love this yb. I'm breeding him (yb het hypo) to a het hypo female in a couple of weeks in hopes of a yb hypo female from him!



    She is about 1000g. She went off feed for awhile, but she's back on feed with a vengence. I'm still debating on breeding her for a late clutch, or holding off until next season. Here's a picture of "fluffy"

    http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4033/s398.jpg
    .
    http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1092/stq8.jpg

    Fluffy is a beauty! If she doesnt hit 1300 min i would wait. No point over stressing her body when she will produce just as beautiful babies next season. Honestly you can breed any time you want, you just have to simulate the temp drop and all that. I always went in season, but i had friends breed year round with no issues. Food for thought.
  • 10-10-2013, 02:05 AM
    BHReptiles
    Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by V2 HeX View Post
    Fluffy is a beauty! If she doesnt hit 1300 min i would wait. No point over stressing her body when she will produce just as beautiful babies next season. Honestly you can breed any time you want, you just have to simulate the temp drop and all that. I always went in season, but i had friends breed year round with no issues. Food for thought.

    I want her to hit 1400g min. When she eats, she's a beast! Now that she's slamming food, shed definitely be ready by January/February. I've already got 2 late clutches coming so I have to also think about if I want a third late clutch or wait and hope to try for an early clutch next season.
  • 10-10-2013, 04:21 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BHReptiles View Post
    I want her to hit 1400g min. When she eats, she's a beast! Now that she's slamming food, shed definitely be ready by January/February. I've already got 2 late clutches coming so I have to also think about if I want a third late clutch or wait and hope to try for an early clutch next season.

    Huh, either way will work out well i would think. Me personaly, id go with a 3rd late clutch ;-)
  • 10-12-2013, 10:58 PM
    SnowShredder
    Gah I can't see the original photos
  • 10-13-2013, 07:52 AM
    grcforce327
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ClarkT View Post
    I like all fires. This one doesn't necessarily wow me. I'd say 6 or 7.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by STjepkes View Post
    Well, what do you look for in a fire that this one isn't bringing to the table??

    Perfectly clean......Not dots!
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...cleanfiref.jpg
  • 10-13-2013, 08:59 AM
    BHReptiles
    Quality of a fire.
    I like clean fires like that too . I've just not been able to find one. This fire is as clean as I've been able to fund with the right color and headstamp. I've just decided I'll make my own clean fires
  • 10-13-2013, 06:22 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by grcforce327 View Post

    That grade of fire is what i consider a 10. They how ever are almost impossible to find, as most are held back for future projects. Creating one that clean takes a few years to line breed to that level, this is why the fire in question for this thread is a good one to get. It is well in the right direction to line breed as a single gene, and also wpuld be a great asset to projects that hide the "clean" look. All in all, well worth the investment. Just my .02.
  • 10-13-2013, 07:27 PM
    John1982
    Call me crazy, I like dots.
  • 10-13-2013, 08:21 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    Call me crazy, I like dots.

    That's not a problem! I know a lot of people who like fires with a lot of dots! it's all about personal preference.
  • 10-13-2013, 08:28 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    Call me crazy, I like dots.

    Thats not crazy at all. I feel the same with spider and clown, i dont want the SUPER reduced LOL
  • 10-13-2013, 08:34 PM
    Mike41793
    Quality of a fire.
    My girl has a few dots, i don't think that lowers her quality though. :p
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/5y6yvepa.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/gu7yne2e.jpg
  • 10-13-2013, 08:42 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    My girl has a few dots, i don't think that lowers her quality though. :p
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/5y6yvepa.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/gu7yne2e.jpg

    Sexy xD

    I think fire is more about color than anything. Whether it has a lot of dots or no dots is just what makes YOUR fire that much more awesome to you.
  • 10-13-2013, 08:44 PM
    Mike41793
    Quality of a fire.
    Yea it was color and blushing for me. I love her. Could care less that shes busy and has a few dots, i think shes awesome :) . The hypo fire male i got for her has a similar busy pattern and awesome blushing so it should be fun! :D
  • 10-13-2013, 08:57 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Yea it was color and blushing for me. I love her. Could care less that shes busy and has a few dots, i think shes awesome :) . The hypo fire male i got for her has a similar busy pattern and awesome blushing so it should be fun! :D

    nice! I honestly don't have any immediate plans for this girl...at least not yet xD I do have a firefly het hypo I could pair with her to make supers...we shall see. xD
  • 10-13-2013, 10:12 PM
    V2 HeX
    Re: Quality of a fire.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    My girl has a few dots, i don't think that lowers her quality though. :p
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/5y6yvepa.jpg
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/14/gu7yne2e.jpg

    No bud, that is an amazing fire! This is my point, its all what you like and wbat you intend to produce from the animal. Beautiful fire :-)
  • 10-13-2013, 10:57 PM
    angllady2
    Interesting conversation. The babies I produced last year had very few or no dots. I wonder if my careful selection of the male and female helped? I am pairing her as we speak, I hope to get another amazing clutch from her.

    I hope no one minds if I post a few pics of the babies I was so very proud of.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psf028f96c.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps470c430d.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps7e632690.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psbf945b7d.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps37da713a.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps81e5177e.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps2c3da7de.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps09abc56e.jpg

    Gale
  • 10-13-2013, 11:11 PM
    BHReptiles
    Quality of a fire.
    You know I love those fire babies! Hit me up when you get hatchlings ;) I might be convinced to add another fire to my mix.
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