Scaleless BP egg cutting!

For those who didnt see it Brian showed his scaleless BP egg cutting video today on SnakeBytes TV!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCixF5NejNU

I can't say for sure whether I think the scaleless gene is a positive addition to the hobby or not, and my indifference is really based on a lack of knowledge or experience dealing with scaleless reptiles. But.... I gotta tell you, watching this video was one of the most exciting moments I have had watching a youtube clip. Brian was beyond happy, and I was beyond happy for him. Here is a man who really is a celebrity in his own right, and who is so down to earth. Everything he does with BHB and snake bytes TV is fueled by his love and passion for the animals and the hobby. Regardless of how this plays out over the next month, 2 months, years, and decades - I am super excited for Brian and am really glad that we all got to share in that moment with him.

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Originally Posted by decensored

I can't say for sure whether I think the scaleless gene is a positive addition to the hobby or not, and my indifference is really based on a lack of knowledge or experience dealing with scaleless reptiles. But.... I gotta tell you, watching this video was one of the most exciting moments I have had watching a youtube clip. Brian was beyond happy, and I was beyond happy for him. Here is a man who really is a celebrity in his own right, and who is so down to earth. Everything he does with BHB and snake bytes TV is fueled by his love and passion for the animals and the hobby. Regardless of how this plays out over the next month, 2 months, years, and decades - I am super excited for Brian and am really glad that we all got to share in that moment with him.

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I couldn't have said it better my self brother, he's a great guy and I'm also very excited for him. I hope to one day be as successful as him doing what I love, and one day I will get there. I think we will have to wait to see what this mutation does and plays out in the game, but for now I wish the best of luck for this mutation and for him. :gj:

I saw the this today as well. I wish that they had waited till the came out so we could see them in all their glory. I hate egg cutting videos when they never give you a follow up. I dumped one of my YouTube snake subs because of they never showed them out of the egg.

Regardless this was a good day for BHB. I have been watching them for a couple years now. Brian has thought me a lot.

They will probably have quite a few updates on these guys as they grow since nobody really knows how this gene will affect the snakes health and looks. Definitely an update when they come out of the eggs since it's such a big deal.

As neat as I think they are, I can honestly say I wouldn't get one. It's just because something about it really bothers me and I don't know why.

Also what will really tick me off is if they feed it live versus f/t. Without scales that snake could easily take some damage from a rat bite.

I'm very curious to see how a scaleless BP would look and feel to the touch.. As long as being scaleless doesn't harm them in any way I got nothing against their breeding, let's hope this experiment turns out well!

Very exciting vid to watch! What a moment. I am personally not super excited about the gene itself but then again tune will tell. I am usually slow to accept new things until I let them "soak in" for a little while.


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Originally Posted by Neal

As neat as I think they are, I can honestly say I wouldn't get one. It's just because something about it really bothers me and I don't know why.

Also what will really tick me off is if they feed it live versus f/t. Without scales that snake could easily take some damage from a rat bite.

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I have watched many of Brian's shows and he has said many times that he will ONLY feed live if the snake is being a picky eater. He generally feeds f/t to his animals.

And as far as scaleless snakes...I also wouldn't get one. I like my snakes with scales, personal preference. But I am happy for Brian to see this project going again. Wish him luck with it.

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I saw the this today as well. I wish that they had waited till the came out so we could see them in all their glory. I hate egg cutting videos when they never give you a follow up. I dumped one of my YouTube snake subs because of they never showed them out of the egg.

Regardless this was a good day for BHB. I have been watching them for a couple years now. Brian has thought me a lot.

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He got a camera pointed at those eggs pretty much right after they were cut for some cool time lapse of the hatching. I think it's Aaron Jones' equipment? But don't worry, you'll definitely see them out of the egg ;)

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Originally Posted by Xaila

He got a camera pointed at those eggs pretty much right after they were cut for some cool time lapse of the hatching. I think it's Aaron Jones' equipment? But don't worry, you'll definitely see them out of the egg ;)

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Yup, you're right so are other people here about being updated. This is such a big thing that there is no way that they wouldn't give us a update. I can put money on it that next Wednesday he will show them out of the egg for us on snakebytes.

I don't think any one has said this about the scaleless yet but here we go... I think this mutation is just more then scaleless I personally believe that this mutation is going to be a color enhancer as well in the BP game. It will brighten stuff up tremendously at a young age, just wait till this thing is crossed with some fires, YBs, and some super pastels/pastels.

That video that Brian put up was probably the most inspiring video to all snake breeders out there that ive ever seen. And the one thing he emphasizes, which is the important thing of all in this hobby is PASSION. Without passion for these animals, you dont really have much if anything else. Im sure he will take every precious precaution with those two new scaleless babies, because of how much passion he has for them. I am very happy for Brian. He deserves it.

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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady

That video that Brian put up was probably the most inspiring video to all snake breeders out there that ive ever seen. And the one thing he emphasizes, which is the important thing of all in this hobby is PASSION. Without passion for these animals, you dont really have much if anything else. Im sure he will take every precious precaution with those two new scaleless babies, because of how much passion he has for them. I am very happy for Brian. He deserves it.

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Agree one million % :) beautifully said.


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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady

That video that Brian put up was probably the most inspiring video to all snake breeders out there that ive ever seen. And the one thing he emphasizes, which is the important thing of all in this hobby is PASSION. Without passion for these animals, you dont really have much if anything else. Im sure he will take every precious precaution with those two new scaleless babies, because of how much passion he has for them. I am very happy for Brian. He deserves it.

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x2 i am so happy for him and to get 2 out of 3 eggs is really amazing! cant wait to see them out of the eggs!!!

When I watched it yesterday, I couldn't believe that they hit two scaleless! 2 of 3 with 1/4 odds!! :) I'm happy for Brian! I do also wish that he would've waited until they hatched. If I ever breed, I most definitely will never cut eggs.

i am eagerly waiting for pictures when they are out of the egg.


the biggest question for me: what about the heat pits? will they be deep and open like they should be, or covered up like in the original deme ball?

the second biggest question will be the belly scales, they are important for movement, i know scaleless texas rats and scaleless corns keep their belly scales. what will it be in this case?

In case you don't follow Twitter, Brian posted this 'teaser' photo of part of the snake's body there today - https://twitter.com/SnakeBytesTV/sta...795905/photo/1

I think the fact that he proved it is totally cool and a step forward for herpetology. Now as far as him thinking that this is gonna change the market and be all over the place... ehh... I'm kinda skeptical. There is something too unnatural about it for me and I'm sure it would be the same for many others. Super cool achievement, but just not for me. Now on the other hand, Brian, I'll be more then happy to take in that Super Bamboo if it's in need of a new home. :D

I was talking to Brian on Twitter and this is what he said. Convo can be found here https://twitter.com/SnakeBytesTV/sta...795905/photo/1

Me: Such a tease brother! Over at Ball-Pythons.net we want to know, are we going to see them on the next SnakeBytes?

Brian: @DiamondSerpents not the next one, but soon! Big highlight in Herp Nations mag in two weeks!!!

Me: I look forward to reading it, I'll let everyone over at BP.net know thanks Brian and big congrats.

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In case you don't follow Twitter, Brian posted this 'teaser' photo of part of the snake's body there today - https://twitter.com/SnakeBytesTV/sta...795905/photo/1

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First of all I loved the video, it's rare to see someone who obviously deeply enjoys their work as he does, it's inspiring. But am I the only one who finds these a little creepy? Kind of like the hairless rats and cats?

hairless rats and hairless cats are so creepy they are cool in the own rights:D

i love my hairless rats although they do seem to grow slower than their haired brother and sisters

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Originally Posted by Badgemash

First of all I loved the video, it's rare to see someone who obviously deeply enjoys their work as he does, it's inspiring. But am I the only one who finds these a little creepy? Kind of like the hairless rats and cats?

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I'm into anything unordinary/rare that people don't like so, I think stuff like this is cool. If this doesn't have health problems with the heat pits and thrives like his corn snakes I'm all in for it. I just don't want to hold a snakes hand for it's whole life.

I was going to get a silk back bearded dragon till I found out how much more work they are a day for 100% care. Baths every single day, special heat, lotion rubbed on it and more....Yeah no thanks that's like taking care of a 3rd kid for me.

I'm interested about the scaleless heads. Why have I never heard of these? Was it a single snake he proved out and bred it back? They look like a normal with stuck shed on their heads. Lol

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Originally Posted by dxpx

I'm interested about the scaleless heads. Why have I never heard of these? Was it a single snake he proved out and bred it back? They look like a normal with stuck shed on their heads. Lol

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I believe it was a snake he hand picked from africa and bred it to a normal and got some scaleless head babys

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I definitely find hairless mammals really creepy, but in a fascinating way... I've kept pet hairless rats and always wanted a hairless guinea pigs. 'Naked' snakes have the same affect. The scaleless lucy texas rats look like wrinkly worms to me.

I'm loving how the scaleless BP looks like someone just drew pattern on with a sharpie though.

Fair enough, and I don't mean to imply there's anying "wrong" with hairless rats and cats (not implying anyone took it that way either, just wanted to clarify) they just don't do it for me.

Well said. It just doesn't do it for me either. But I'm not gonna put others down for finding this appealing. I find the Candino/Toffino complex to be absolutely gorgeous, yet a lot of others don't like them at all. "To each his own"

Now on the other hand, it's really sad to look at the comments on the world premiere post on BHB's FB page. There are hundreds of post saying horrible things about Brian. Telling him he's "gone too far" "stop playing God" and he's a "f#&@king sick worthless human". its very sad that people don't understand the scientific significance, importance, and accomplishment with this.

If this morph moves forward, I think it should appropriately be named "The Controversial" lol.

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Originally Posted by Badgemash

First of all I loved the video, it's rare to see someone who obviously deeply enjoys their work as he does, it's inspiring. But am I the only one who finds these a little creepy? Kind of like the hairless rats and cats?

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No!! I thought it looked cute and possibly soft!!

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Well said. It just doesn't do it for me either. But I'm not gonna put others down for finding this appealing. I find the Candino/Toffino complex to be absolutely gorgeous, yet a lot of others don't like them at all. "To each his own"

Now on the other hand, it's really sad to look at the comments on the world premiere post on BHB's FB page. There are hundreds of post saying horrible things about Brian. Telling him he's "gone too far" "stop playing God" and he's a "f#&@king sick worthless human". its very sad that people don't understand the scientific significance, importance, and accomplishment with this.

If this morph moves forward, I think it should appropriately be named "The Controversial" lol.

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Those are called haters.... If this BP gene shows a weakness or leathality. I bet my collection Brian wouldn't continue the project if he found serious health issues, regardless of how cool it is. :gj:

I agree 1000%. If there is something wrong with this project (defects, short lived, struggling day to day, lethal) he is enough of a stand up guy that he would make the judgement call of not moving forward with this gene.

In the comments below the pic Brian says it still has belly scales and heat pits, which makes me a) feel optimistic for a healthy future for it b) happy for Brian.

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Originally Posted by Badgemash

In the comments below the pic Brian says it still has belly scales and heat pits, which makes me a) feel optimistic for a healthy future for it b) happy for Brian.

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awesome awesome awesome news!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i guess one must have started pipping and breathing for Brian to see this. thats the news i was waiting for, now i want it confirmed in pics.