2013 Bumblebee Male + backstory

Hey guys,

Just wanted to share this story and pics of this little guy with you. I got him as part of a trade about a month and a half ago. He had/has an awful woble ad was being force fed - he was incredibly underweight (at no fault of the person I got him from). When I got him home I had serious doubts about whether or not he was going to make it. His wobble was so bad that he he usually ended up on completely on his back, and would stay in that position. I have him a hide and spent some time showing him how to position himself in it - it was a very different experience for me. Got him eating F/T like a champ from the comfort of his hide. Since having that constant, he is coping very well, and seems to managing his wobble much better. I have high hopes for him and I am actually a huge fan of how he looks. Love the high white and super speckling. I think he may be with me for a long time :P.

Anyways, Here he is - Thanks for looking.

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...bumblebee1.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...umbleebee2.jpg

Awww he's so cute! Glad you got him eating and everything :) I have the same problem with a little bumblebee I have. He has a very bad head wobble as well and it takes him longer to eat but he eventually gets it. I think the wobble gives them character though. He's the goofiest snake I have.


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But I hope your little guy gets to spend a good long happy time with you :)


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Wish both of you the best.
He is a keeper for sure.

Thanks,

Yeah he is definitely full of personality. Not sure if breeding him is a good idea considering how substantial is neurological issues are - but he is absolutely one of my favorites. Glad you know where I am coming from - it's little guys like this that reminds me how much I love this hobby.

Hopefully both of ours grow out of it. I've heard lots of stories where babies were born with terrible wobbles but as they got older it started to fade. Or breeders breeding two bad wobblers and getting babies that show very faint signs of wobbling. So you never know :) I would give up on breeding him though. He's so pretty! And even if the babies are wobblers people need to get used to it/over it or not deal with anything with the spider gene. So don't count him out yet :) hopefully when he is up to breeding size his wobble won't be so bad. I'm hoping this happens with my little guy as well.


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Your story and more like it don't get to the non - reptile world enough.
Taking on animals that are not "perfect" but still need cared for shows the person you are.

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Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy

Hopefully both of ours grow out of it. I've heard lots of stories where babies were born with terrible wobbles but as they got older it started to fade. Or breeders breeding two bad wobblers and getting babies that show very faint signs of wobbling. So you never know :) I would give up on breeding him though. He's so pretty! And even if the babies are wobblers people need to get used to it/over it or not deal with anything with the spider gene. So don't count him out yet :) hopefully when he is up to breeding size his wobble won't be so bad. I'm hoping this happens with my little guy as well.


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That's a very good point!! I've heard of this as well. My breeder spider girl didn't have a wobble at all when I got her, but over the last few years it's gotten progressive - but her babies this year have absolutely no signs of a wobble. Who knows what's in store. :) I wish you the best with your guy.

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Originally Posted by brock lesser

Your story and more like it don't get to the non - reptile world enough.
Taking on animals that are not "perfect" but still need cared for shows the person you are.

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Thank you :) I really appreciate you saying that. :) - And you're absolutely right, there is way too much negativity in the mass media surrounding constrictors especially.

Beautiful story and beautiful little boy.

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Thanks,

Yeah he is definitely full of personality. Not sure if breeding him is a good idea considering how substantial is neurological issues are - but he is absolutely one of my favorites. Glad you know where I am coming from - it's little guys like this that reminds me how much I love this hobby.

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The Spider Gene wobble actually reminds of genetic traits in dogs, such as German Shepherd and Hip Dysplasia. Some people will still breed them despite the possibility of it, and others won't. Whether you breed him or just keep him as a pet, that won't change the heartwarming story. :)

Great story! So glad to hear the little guy pulled through for you. And don't hesitate to post more pics :)

If we took the spider gene out, think of all the beautiful combo's that wouldn't exist.

So cute. I think hes a keeper ;)

That's awesome that you did all that for the snake. I just feel like some people under-credit reptiles so much.

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If we took the spider gene out, think of all the beautiful combo's that wouldn't exist.

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Absolutely!! Some of my favorite morphs have the spider gene. And a lot of breeders have gotten pretty good and breeding out the severity of the wobble.

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Originally Posted by Neal

That's awesome that you did all that for the snake. I just feel like some people under-credit reptiles so much.

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I agree, and thank you! People are quick to give up on them, and they can be quite resilient.

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Beautiful story and beautiful little boy.



The Spider Gene wobble actually reminds of genetic traits in dogs, such as German Shepherd and Hip Dysplasia. Some people will still breed them despite the possibility of it, and others won't. Whether you breed him or just keep him as a pet, that won't change the heartwarming story. :)

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Reputable German Shepherd breeders will xray the potential breeding prospects hips and have them OFA certified, most will not breed with a rating lower than "good", sometimes if going back the pedigree the dogs are good or above they may choose to breed one with a fair rating to a dog with an excellent rating.
It doesn't " guarantee" the offspring won't have it... as you are working with nature, but greatly decreases the risk.

So many GS have it due to byb and puppy mills who plainly don't care!


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I'm glad he's doing well :)

Thanks everyone :)

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Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy

Awww he's so cute! Glad you got him eating and everything :) I have the same problem with a little bumblebee I have. He has a very bad head wobble as well and it takes him longer to eat but he eventually gets it. I think the wobble gives them character though. He's the goofiest snake I have.


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I agree. My little Xavier only has a mild to moderate wobble, but it does add a cuteness to him. He wouldn't be himself without it. :)

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Originally Posted by brock lesser

Your story and more like it don't get to the non - reptile world enough.
Taking on animals that are not "perfect" but still need cared for shows the person you are.

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I agree with the post above. Nice to see keepers going the extra mile to take care of animals with special needs.

I don't know if you name your animals but if you do, you might consider "Weeble". You might be too young to remember the toys called Weebles. If so, here's a link to a vintage commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq0OQBdIhsc

Best of luck with him.

Is the "wobble" something that is detrimental in the overall health of the animal throughout its life?

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

I agree with the post above. Nice to see keepers going the extra mile to take care of animals with special needs.

I don't know if you name your animals but if you do, you might consider "Weeble". You might be too young to remember the toys called Weebles. If so, here's a link to a vintage commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq0OQBdIhsc

Best of luck with him.

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Hahahaha thanks, I do and I named him Ed. As in Special Ed lol

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Originally Posted by Borgy76

Is the "wobble" something that is detrimental in the overall health of the animal throughout its life?

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Not in itself. It can cause difficulty with eating and drinking, and normal functioning. It's the level of difficulty the animal has carrying out basic survival tasks that dictates whether the wobble will reflect negatively on the animals health. If the snake is eating and drinking and functioning normally, even with a severe wobble, they can be completely healthy animals. :)