Planning on getting a new tank?

Caesar my 2 month old BP is getting big quick and i plan on getting him a new tank by christmas, hes currently in a 10 gallon tank doing fine. But i want 1 that he can stay in his whole life, with out buying 1 here and than another and so on. I dont need 10 tanks just from 1 snake. I was thinking about the exo terra 40 gallon wide because it is a nice looking tank, but would that be to big and stress him out? I just dont want to buy more than 1 tank. I dont like the racks because i like having a display tank and try to make it look as good as possible! Let me know what you guys think :)

40 gallon would be fine, just clutter it up and black out 3 sides and you should be good :)

okay thank you for your fast reply! could i use the fish tank backs with the realistic forrest and things like that on the sides? The back has a foam insert already..

I don't know where u live, but tanks are harder to control than tubs. They lose heat easily and you'll have humidity drops and spikes. I used to insulate mine. Tubs also provide the ability to hide in peace and quiet that tanks cannot provide when they are on display. Look into a rack.

If you really want a tank then get a 20. 40 would be too big and could cause some issues even if its cluttered. Plus, clutter makes cleaning harder and improper cleaning leads to a sick/unhealthy animal. You can find them pretty cheap. You can use aquarium backgrounds. I did when I first started. When the 20 starts to get small u can try a 40, but by then i bet you'll have more and will be looking into racks

I, too, would recommend going with the 40 gal. Not sure how clutter can lead to unhealthy animals... If you use crumpled paper, all you do is toss it ;) I agree wholeheartedly that you'll probably end up with a rack though lol. You can never have too many balls! But IMO it's better to err on the side of caution and just go with the bigger setup for your current guy.

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I don't know where u live, but tanks are harder to control than tubs. They lose heat easily and you'll have humidity drops and spikes. I used to insulate mine. Tubs also provide the ability to hide in peace and quiet that tanks cannot provide when they are on display. Look into a rack.

If you really want a tank then get a 20. 40 would be too big and could cause some issues even if its cluttered. Plus, clutter makes cleaning harder and improper cleaning leads to a sick/unhealthy animal. You can find them pretty cheap. You can use aquarium backgrounds. I did when I first started. When the 20 starts to get small u can try a 40, but by then i bet you'll have more and will be looking into racks

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Racks are harder to heat than glass tanks. Tub are much better at holding humidity in though.

Try a cage from like animal plastics/boaphile/etc. or one of the other cage builders. Might run a little more than a tank, but they make temps/humidity easier to control, and they sure look nice.

if i could have more balls i would get more balls my dad watns me to save money to get my car fxed and would be super pissed if i bought another, i do agree there are pros and cons of racks vs tanks. some good somebad, but me personaly i enjoy the view and like being creative with my tanks to get a good feeling with my creative side haha. My buddy actually told me he'll give me his 20 gallon because his ball out grew it. but i might consider getting another ball maybe in november at the next closest reptile show to me. but only time will tell. and for humidity with a tank i just throw a damn paper towel on top to keep in some extra humidity and spray it down every night and morning cause my infared heat light really zaps the humidity but i like him to be able to bask as well as get belly heat from his uth. but thats just my personal opinion :)

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where can i find 1? ive thought about those types of tanks aswell

I've had my 1600g ball in a 40br for the last 2 years and he seems to like it just fine. I got him when he was about 700g-100g. When he was smaller, there were a couple plants and a branch in there which he liked to climb up and hide under. Since then I've taken them out and working on changing things up for him a little. Humidity for me isn't a big hassle(thankfully) as my apartment stays in the 45-50% range so I spritz the tank once in a while to give it a boost.

Petco is currently having their $1/gallon sale until 9/21(i think). Depending on the Petco, you may be able to get a 40br critter cage for $40. Some Petcos sell the critter cages along with the aquariums for $1/gallon as well.

PS- I will be doing enclosure upgrades(hopefully next year), I'm switching to PVC cages. Just a thought for you. There are some here who have really nice setups. I know Gio posts some good pics of his RTB enclosure.

Tubs are great especially if you're able to hold the room a steady temp.

You can save more money by going with tubs.

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Try a cage from like animal plastics/boaphile/etc. or one of the other cage builders. Might run a little more than a tank, but they make temps/humidity easier to control, and they sure look nice.

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Ditto on this. They have nice display cages that are way easier to manage than a tank in terms of heat and humidity, plus they are a lot lighter than a heavy glass tank. The extra money spent is going to be saved and then some because you would be wasting as much time and money trying to modify the tank to get everything right. I have to spray my tanks almost every day to keep humidity correct (for the boas and balls), even with the modifications, but I actually never have to spray the cages. It stays perfect with just the humidity from the water bowl and substrate, and they look a lot nicer than a tank in my opinion anyway.

I have 3 of these cages that I got for an awesome deal off Craiglist: http://www.showcasecages.com/36GGlg.jpg

One of these (also off Craigslist): http://www.npicages.com/36_stackable_cage.html

And one of these: http://snakefxcaging.com/largecage.gif

Tubs can only be used if the room has a higher ambient temperature around 76-78 degrees because belly heat in a tub will not keep the air temperature up. Get the 20 gallon off your friend, it should last your snake another year or so. Then use the 10 gallon you have now for your new snake you plan on getting at the expo. By the time he out grows the 10 gallon, you can switch him to the 20 gal and buy the 40 gal for your first snake.

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Tubs can only be used if the room has a higher ambient temperature around 76-78 degrees because belly heat in a tub will not keep the air temperature up. Get the 20 gallon off your friend, it should last your snake another year or so. Then use the 10 gallon you have now for your new snake you plan on getting at the expo. By the time he out grows the 10 gallon, you can switch him to the 20 gal and buy the 40 gal for your first snake.

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My thoughts exactly!!

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where can i get one of teh 1st ones? i really like the tank design they have 1 at the thrift store up the street from me, but they want 250 for i tried to talk him down but i couldnt :/

I really would recomend sticking to tubs, they are so much easier to control temps. The tub setups are cheap compared with tanks. JUST MY OPINION!

i would do that but i was tlaking to my dad last night and he told me no more animals, my house has 10 tarantulas, salt water fish, a snake, turtle, 3tree frogs, fresh water fish, a dog and cat. weve had scorpions, birds, an iguana, gater snakes, rough green snakes, ginuea pigs, and a western hognose. there was probably more but i cant think of right now, those werent all at the same time but over the period of my 17 year old life haha. if it were up to me id fill my basment with racks upon racks of coulbrids, lizards, balls, king snakes, anything! and if i had the money to feeed everything, hell id probably breed my own mice but thats on ly a dream for now

I have to agree. I went from a glass exo Terra to a Animal Plastics PVC. It's flipping amazing.

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