Boa hybrids?

Hey guys, I was just curious on BCI hybrids that have actually worked?
I'm just curious as to what snakes can breed together and actually have off springs
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Is there anyone on the form who has a hybrid?
I just want to know more about it!

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I don't know of anyone who has bred a BCI to a different species. There are crosses between SUB-species - that is done all the time. BCI x BCC or BCO etc... I believe someone once tried to cross an albino BCI to a Dumerils. There was no resulting litter. But that was between two snakes that originated from two separate continents. I have never heard of a cross between a BCI or BCC to a different species working. And I would seriously question someone's motives for trying.

These ain't mine but I figured I would post them up. Boacondas. Yup you read that right. BCI x anaconda. I believe someone in the UK did it. Not sure who tho. And no, I have no hybrids...yet...
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Boaconda??? Sounds like a weekday Syfy movie :p

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why would someone want to cross breed anyways. someone I knew had burm ball and I wasn't impressed with the animals, just seemed like an over grown ball python to me (13ft)

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Originally Posted by crepers86

why would someone want to cross breed anyways.

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Because humans like to be able to do things "just because we can". I thinks hybrids are pointless.

The hybrids that Kali talked about aren't quite the same thing imo, bc those are subspecies of BCI. Breeding a Hog Island to a Colombian will result in all bci's still.

I do have a hybrid (Jungle Corn=CalkingXCornsnake) and an intergrade (DiamondXCoastal Carpet Python) in my collection. The Complete Carpet Python brings up the point that the second any animal is kept in captivity it's evolutionary path is altered. So what's done with the animal from that point on is inconsequential from an evolutionary point of view. The other point is that even though some hybrids are almost indistinguishable from one of the parent species this only matters to hobbyists who are purists in their interests. The view that these animals could then never be used to restock wild populations is erroneous because that's just not done anyway. The risk of introducing disease is just too great. To me it's a personal decision and I would never tell anyone that they have to think one way or another.

PS Those Boacondas are pretty funky looking. They don't even seem real!

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

And I would seriously question someone's motives for trying.

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What does it matter? What if I want to make a hybrid and cross x snake with y snake? They are my snakes.. As long as I am not being cruel with sub par living conditions or malnourishing them I can do what I want.

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

What does it matter? What if I want to make a hybrid and cross x snake with y snake? They are my snakes.. As long as I am not being cruel with sub par living conditions or malnourishing them I can do what I want.

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And as long as you keep the offspring or sell/give them to a VERYYY responsible person. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

And as long as you keep the offspring or sell/give them to a VERYYY responsible person. :gj:

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Well that's a given lol can't sell to anybody sketchy.

Sorry to me it's kinda on the order of "designer" dog breeds. My friend just paid close to $300 for a jack Russell/pug (Jug). Coulda went and adopted a mixed breed at the shelter

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Originally Posted by Crazymonkee

Sorry to me it's kinda on the order of "designer" dog breeds. My friend just paid close to $300 for a jack Russell/pug (Jug). Coulda went and adopted a mixed breed at the shelter

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I spent close to $1000 on a pure bred Doberman freshman year of college and $500 on a Pure bred dachshund for my fiancé last summer... It my money, Why is it wrong? I couldn't imagine having any other dogs but these two they are a part of my family it shouldn't matter where they came from I got the two I wanted.

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I think he meant the breeding different breeds together creating mutts, when you can rescue a mutt any day of the week for much less $ at a shelter. It's really bad here in Flint, MI. People are breeding the exact same animals you can get at the shelters and calling them designers then asking big money for them. Then they get mad when someone calls the a backyard breeder. Dogs like Golden Doodles might be in demand, but Lab, Jack Russell, German Shepard, Pit Bulls, etc mixes are being euthanized every day at Animal Control there's no need to produce them on purpose to try to make money. With the millions of unwanted dogs and cats that are euthanized every year, it's really a totally different issue than snake breeding and hybridization.

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Originally Posted by zach_24_90

I spent close to $1000 on a pure bred Doberman freshman year of college and $500 on a Pure bred dachshund for my fiancé last summer... It my money, Why is it wrong? I couldn't imagine having any other dogs but these two they are a part of my family it shouldn't matter where they came from I got the two I wanted.

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I've spent thousands on purebreds as well... treeboa hit the nail on the head.
Yes it's different but could in fact turn into the same type of scenario.


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Originally Posted by Crazymonkee

I've spent thousands on purebreds as well... treeboa hit the nail on the head.
Yes it's different but could in fact turn into the same type of scenario.


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Ohhhhh gotcha gotcha. Well I can see both sides as well still. Just because i want an xyz dog and a shelter has an xyz dog it's still up to that person wether they want that or to go their own way you know. Like I just can't justify telling someone they shouldn't be doing this or that as long as they aren't harming any animals I'm good with it

Let's be honest breeding different breeds of dog together is nothing new... How do you think we got all these pure breeds in the first place? I am in no way anti-hybrid as long as those who produce them do so responsibly. But I hold that to all people who decide to breed animals.

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Originally Posted by sissysnakes

Let's be honest breeding different breeds of dog together is nothing new... How do you think we got all these pure breeds in the first place? I am in no way anti-hybrid as long as those who produce them do so responsibly. But I hold that to all people who decide to breed animals.

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I agree that's how we got new breeds and I'm not saying don't do it at all... I'm saying do it for yourself not for money. Everyone that made a new breed had a plan in motion on how to get the desired effect... a standard to work towards. not just sticking two different breeds together to use silly names and call them designer. I'm not putting down the ones that have an "idea" that they are trying to get to...

Hope that kinda clarifies what I was trying to say???

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not rtb but they are boas and I love them: http://www.hybridhaven.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

not rtb but they are boas and I love them: http://www.hybridhaven.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12

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I love those too. It's an example of a hybrid that occurs in the wild, too. These turn up from time to time in shipments from Guyana.

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Originally Posted by Crazymonkee

I agree that's how we got new breeds and I'm not saying don't do it at all... I'm saying do it for yourself not for money. Everyone that made a new breed had a plan in motion on how to get the desired effect... a standard to work towards. not just sticking two different breeds together to use silly names and call them designer. I'm not putting down the ones that have an "idea" that they are trying to get to...

Hope that kinda clarifies what I was trying to say???

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I get ya! As I said earlier I'm OK with breeding any animal as long as its done responsibly. Most of the breeders I know don't do it for the money.. Most that do are considered glorified puppy mills.

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Wow, lots of good opinions guys. Thank you so much for replying.

My only problem with hybrids/mixes is if the animal is not true to its name or appearance. A high yellow jungle carpet python who's grandaddy is a jag is still not an actual jungle carpet. It's a mutt.
But a wall python or boaconda is exactly what you call it, and is what you would expect it to be- a mix of the two.

I feel that as long as your animals are cared for properly and you are able to pair them together successfully with no issues it should be fine. But the problem with this topic is opinion....and everyone's opinion is correct. So if you want to do it, go for it, if you think its wrong, just simply don't do it. Hope you got the answer(s) you were looking for!

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