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  • 09-03-2013, 08:29 PM
    angllady2
    Now what have I gone and produced???
    Hey gang!

    So, most of you know my season this past winter didn't do much because of my depression battles. I did however get a few locks and believe it or not, a clutch of eggs. The babies are hatching now, and I need help figuring out what I've gotten myself into!

    Ok, I have a breeder Mojave female, you guys now that. She made my Vanilla Mojave female in 2012. I had been pairing her to my pied male in hopes of getting some mojave het pieds, but she didn't want to lock. So I decided to put my biggest male in with her, my pastel. They did their thing, and after that she locked the pied any time I put them together. Since the pastel was only with her once, I figured I had pretty good chances he wouldn't take and I'd still get my het pieds. She had 7 eggs on July 13th and they were all fertile.

    The way I saw it, if her clutch was only mojaves and normals, I'd call them het pieds. If by some freak chance there was a pastel in the mix, then I'd simply figure the pied lost out this year. So the first head pipped, and hubby says no doubt it was a mojave. So far, so good. Then I decided to cut the rest. Mojave, Mojave, mojave somthing?, Mojave something?, what the heck is that thing?, mojave I think?, mojave something?. I'm just a little bit puzzled, but I figure the pastel must have taken, and what I am seeing is likely Pastaves, mojaves and probably a pastel.

    Then tonight, three have hatched. And I gotta tell you, I'm not exactly sure what to think. Two are Pastave, I'm pretty sure. The orange one?? I'm not so sure. Tell me your honest opinions guys, am I just seeing what I want to see, or is there something a little bit off to you guys as well.

    Pastave # 1:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psb22e423a.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps49b1cd26.jpg


    Pastave # 2:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps98b26ed7.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps54131e74.jpg

    Pastel???:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps51691c32.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psef383241.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psa836aa13.jpg


    I've got four still in the egg, and I can't wait to see what else is waiting for me!!

    Gale
  • 09-03-2013, 08:43 PM
    T&C Exotics
    Re: Now what have I gone and produced???
    I see 2 pastaves and one pastel
  • 09-03-2013, 09:16 PM
    dillan2020
    I see the same and that is one smoking hot pastel.
  • 09-03-2013, 09:21 PM
    joebad976
    Looks like the pastel won....
  • 09-03-2013, 09:45 PM
    Andybill
    They are looking pretty good! Congrats!
  • 09-03-2013, 09:52 PM
    ClarkT
    Awesome pastel and pastaves!!! Wow! Congrats!
  • 09-03-2013, 10:10 PM
    BHReptiles
    Re: Now what have I gone and produced???
    Those pastaves are hot!

    Looks like the pastel won xD
  • 09-03-2013, 11:19 PM
    angllady2
    So you guys think even with that ridiculous head fade it's just a pastel?

    I know, I know I should be able to tell by looking at it. Lord knows I tell enough people here they have "just a pastel" even with a faded head. I guess now I know why people post those pictures. When it's in your hand it's different. :D

    Well, time will tell when they shed out. But I gotta tell you, I think that pastel might just be staying, boy or girl!

    Gale
  • 09-03-2013, 11:20 PM
    BHReptiles
    Now what have I gone and produced???
    I think it's a stellar pastel! I'd kill for that in my rack ;)
  • 09-03-2013, 11:29 PM
    el8ch
    Re: Now what have I gone and produced???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    So you guys think even with that ridiculous head fade it's just a pastel?

    Congrats on some nice looking babies Gale!

    And, yeah that looks like a nice pastel. I had a couple this year that had really nice faded heads out of the egg and pre-shed. It will most likely darken after first and second shed. It's a looker though!! :gj:
  • 09-04-2013, 12:24 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Now what have I gone and produced???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    When it's s in your hand it's different. :D

    Very true lol.

    What I see is the fader or whiteout "gene". Which many of us see is just a polygenetic trait. I would keep if it was a female and try to refine the trait as much as possible, does look pretty sweet doesn't it?
  • 09-05-2013, 10:06 PM
    angllady2
    Ok guys. The rest of the clutch is out. The final tally is: 3 Pastaves, 2 Mojaves, and 2 Pastels. I am tickled to pieces, even if I didn't get my mojave het pieds this year.

    New pictures follow.

    Pastave 3: It has a dollar sign!

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps28470bcf.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psc8136a4a.jpg

    Pastel 2, this one doesn't have the blushing it's sibling does, but the head fade is still ridiculous:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps30fadaa4.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psdb164043.jpg

    Mojave 1, even the mojaves in this clutch are something else!:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps745774d6.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psa49790c7.jpg

    Mojave 2:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psd51480c0.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse4654a26.jpg

    Gale
  • 09-06-2013, 06:45 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    I really think you got a nice polygenetic trait going on there. Pastel appears to be one of the pieces of it. Hope to see some super blushed animals in a couple years :)
  • 09-06-2013, 07:45 PM
    ARamos8
    Those are some really nice colors on those scale kids... Congrats. :)
  • 09-06-2013, 08:34 PM
    MootWorm
    Re: Now what have I gone and produced???
    Dolla dolla bill, y'all!!! Lol awesome clutch. And those are some smoking little worms. Congrats!
  • 09-07-2013, 02:04 AM
    wolfy-hound
    I see a smiley face on Pastave #3. I can also almost see the smiley the clutch put on your face. Congrats!
  • 09-07-2013, 02:45 AM
    MarkS
    I wouldn't call that 'just a pastel' that one is definitely top shelf.
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