Need help between BCI or BCC

Can anyone help me understand the difference between the two?

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...273-BCC-vs-BCI

Now I had another question like they did.
is mine a BCC or BCI?

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Bcc mainly refer to a locality. Surinam, Guyana, Peruvian, Brazilian, etc. for the most part they have a higher size range. It's tough to pinpoint some of the differences. For example telling the difference between a Surinam and Guyana is difficult. The only true way to be sure is to know where it was caught or buy from a breeder that knows the location if the original animals capture.
BCI's trend to be smaller and for the most part cover all your morphs. This is the same thing as what some refer to as a common boa or normal.

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That's a bci. Or normal or common. Here's an example of a bcc, these are Surinams that I've owned.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/30/e9a4e7yn.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/30/amupy6u7.jpg

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A lot cleaner and sharper

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Normal or Common meaning BCI correct?

Yes

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Originally Posted by Johnny_300

Normal or Common meaning BCI correct?

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Correct. It doesn't help with ID too that when one country or another has shut down exportation, the borders are so porous that collectors just go across to were they can sell and export. A BCC coming out of Guyana could be just that or Surinam or Brazilian. Same with BCI from Central America. That's why so many are just called Central Americans and not Costa Rican or Nicaraguan etc.

So do I have a BCI? Or BCC? I posted an image above. An thanks a lot I'm startin to understand it a little better.

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So do I have a BCI? Or BCC? I posted an image above. An thanks a lot I'm startin to understand it a little better.

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Your boa is a BCI: my best guess a Colombian BCI boa (which is what most people call "common" boas: the Colombians). Other BCI boas include Central Americans, Nics, Mexican dwarf boas, Hog Islands, etc (just some examples) but yours looks like a Colombian "common" BCI boa to me.

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

Your boa is a BCI: my best guess a Colombian BCI boa (which is what most people call "common" boas: the Colombians). Other BCI boas include Central Americans, Nics, Mexican dwarf boas, Hog Islands, etc (just some examples) but yours looks like a Colombian "common" BCI boa to me.

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would he be considered Colombian Red Tail?

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I think the term "Red Tail" is incorrect for BCI boas because the "true red tails" are the BCC boas such as the Peruvians, Guyanas, Surinames, etc

I see many call their Colombians and BCI boas "red tails" and see it commonly in pet stores too but I personally think it's incorrect. I call my Colombians "Colombian BCI boas"

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would he be considered Colombian Red Tail?

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I think the term "Red Tail" is incorrect for BCI boas because the "true red tails" are the BCC boas such as the Peruvians, Guyanas, Surinames, etc

I see many call their Colombians and BCI boas "red tails" and see it commonly in pet stores too but I personally think it's incorrect. I call my Colombians "Colombian BCI boas"

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I agree with Daybreaker. Your boa is a BCI and most likely a Colombian. The "true Red Tail" boas are the BCC she mentioned above. I also call my Colombians "Colombian boas" or "common BCI".


Here is some additional info that may help you. The following was originally posted by our own Vypyrz....


Red Tail Boas are classified as follows:

Boa Constrictor Constrictor (BCC)- These are the "true red tails." These are generally the largest in size and maintain their red tails into adulthood. The tail will normally have a distinct red color that ranges from bright red to a deeper, more blood red color. They come from:
Peru
Brazil
Venezuela
Suriname
Guyana

Boa Constrictor Imperator (BCI)- This is the largest group of boa constrictors. Their tail color normally ranges from a darker, more subdued red to a more common brown color. They include the boas from Central America:
Colombia
Panama
Costa Rica
Nicaraqua
Mexico: Tamaulipas, Tarahumara
and the insular islands:
Hogg Island
Caulker Cay
Crawl Cay
Corn Island

Boa Constrictor Amarali (BCA)- Bolivian boa constrictors

Boa Constrictor Longicauda (BCL)- These come from the Tumbes region of Peru. They are also known as the Peruvian Long-tail Boa, as they have a higher scale count from their vent to tail tip, than the Peruvian BCC.

Boa Constrictor Occidentalis (BCO)- Argentine boa constrictors.

Boa Constrictor Sabogae (BCS)- Pearl Island boa constrictors

As well as, some of the lesser known sub-species:

Boa Constrictor Nebulosa- Dominican Republic, Lesser Antilles
Boa Constrictor Orophias- St. Lucia
Boa Constrictor Melanogaster- Ecuador Black Belly

It is best to research each of these, as they have different sizes, colorings, and growth rates. Here are a few websites to help you get started, where the different sub-species of Boa Constrictor are discussed and described:

http://www.boa-constrictors.com/com/com.html

http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/contactinformation/

http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/index.htm

Physical Differences:

-Saddle Shape: Generally the BCI saddles will have a rounder apearance, looking something like this: ( ) ( ) ( ), whereas the BCC saddles generally have an apex in the saddles, much like this: } { } { } { } . While this is a good marker, it is not always reliable.

-Head Shape: The head shape between BCC and BCI may be hard to detect in neonates, but from about 1 year in age, the differences become more apparent. The BCC generally have less pronounced jaw muscles, giving the head a more slender, longer, or uniformly tapered appearance, with a more pointed shaped nose. Also, the size of the head will appear larger in relation to the size of the body in the neck area. The BCI generally has more pronounced jaw muscles and a more blunt or broader looking nose, giving the head a shorter appearance. Also the BCI head will appear smaller in relation to the size of the body in the neck area.