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  • 08-27-2013, 07:13 PM
    MrLang
    Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    My second clutch is hatching now and I couldn't be more pumped. The pairing was Bumble Bee x Pewter. So far I see:

    1 grayish highly blushed spider - looks like a pewter or killer bee

    1 cinnamon

    1 pastelish, maybe a super? - can barely see this one

    1 more bee-ish spider pastel +?

    and THIS! The head is silver where there's color and completely clear/white on the rest. The spots along the eye mask lead me to believe PERHAPS I have hit the sterling bee!? It's much more fun to wait so I won't be cutting this one further to peek. What do you think? Did I hit it or is this a pewter bee or regular sterling? Of course many more pics to come here and on my Facebook.

    This hobby. What is this. I don't even. So awesome.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img43/1594/lisj.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img96/5862/7em3.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img839/6020/owzl.jpg
  • 08-27-2013, 07:17 PM
    MrLang
    It's definitely a pewter bee. Still PUUUMPED!
  • 08-27-2013, 07:19 PM
    Geckodelic
    My very first clutch piped today as well! I also have the same EXACT head peeking through the hole except mine would be a queen bee (lesser pastel spider). The head is the exact pinkish hue with those brownish black side lines. I also think I hit the lesser bee (which is why I believe the first one is the Queen). Good luck!!
  • 08-27-2013, 07:25 PM
    Crazygecko
    Cant wait to see them out of the egg. Congrats
  • 08-27-2013, 08:19 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    I'd say you did, but I guess we'll see!!!
  • 08-27-2013, 10:26 PM
    Diamond Serpents
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters View Post
    I'd say you did, but I guess we'll see!!!

    This and congrats Lang I know you've been waiting.
  • 08-28-2013, 08:46 AM
    sum182
    Yea, i was gonna say the head isn't blushed enough for it to be a sterling bee. The head on mine is basically white. Still, pewter bees are NNNIIICCEE :gj: Hope its a male for ya.....or female if you want that haha.
  • 08-28-2013, 09:28 AM
    MrLang
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sum182 View Post
    Yea, i was gonna say the head isn't blushed enough for it to be a sterling bee. The head on mine is basically white. Still, pewter bees are NNNIIICCEE :gj: Hope its a male for ya.....or female if you want that haha.

    The pictures are misleading but we will see hopefully tonight. I got another picture of its head with no flash that shows what it looks like in reality. The thing that has me wondering if maybe it is the sterling bee is that I caught a glimpse of one of the other heads last night and it had much more color and I feel confident it is either a pewter bee or a regular sterling. The pattern on the side makes me think it has to have spider in it, but the head was much more colored than this other one. We shall see!!

    And Yes I am hoping this is a male.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img163/2487/a7j8.jpg
  • 08-29-2013, 08:15 AM
    MrLang
    OK last night I thought they were both pewter bees. The 2nd one is out of the egg and I'm kind of glad I hit a definite pewter bee, because it's helping me feel confident that the other is a sterling. You be the judge... also... SNAKE PIIIICS!!

    Pewter Bee and Cinny:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img809/1892/fl86.jpg

    Pewter Bee:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img153/4600/rpit.jpg

    It's OK little fella:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8281/j29p.jpg

    Everybody's out!:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img203/6363/y28c.jpg

    No Flash:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img29/5668/igem.jpg

    I'm not crazy, right? The snake on the right is a sterling and the snake on the left is a pewter? The one on the right when I flip it over the edge of the belly is super busy patterned and spotted like a super pastel whereas the one on the left has a much more organized pewtery 1 big spot per break kind of pattern.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img29/5668/igem.jpg


    What say you?! Pewter or Sterling?
  • 08-29-2013, 08:19 AM
    TJ_Burton
    Looks like a Sterling to me (by comparison)
  • 08-29-2013, 09:06 AM
    sum182
    hmmm.....seeing it compaired to the pewter....I'm not sure. It definitely has more blushing. Here a pic of mine for comparison....Tough call! Might have to wait for that first shed


    http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m...2_2006/Top.jpg
  • 08-29-2013, 09:13 AM
    kat_black181
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    I think it looks like a sterling...
  • 08-29-2013, 09:36 AM
    MrLang
    Ah I uploaded the same pic twice by accident - what I get for posting at 7:30am. Here is the last pic I meant to link:

    http://imageshack.us/a/img842/8141/tfuv.jpg
  • 08-29-2013, 09:38 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Looks sterling to me too.


    Sent from iPhone 5 using tapatalk :)
  • 08-29-2013, 03:25 PM
    sum182
    Thats a much better picture of them, and I'd have to agree now. I'd say sterling for sure as well! :gj: :banana:
  • 08-29-2013, 05:11 PM
    Diamond Serpents
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sum182 View Post
    Thats a much better picture of them, and I'd have to agree now. I'd say sterling for sure as well! :gj: :banana:

    Glad to see them all out now. Congrats on the hit Lang, definitely a sterling and a good looking one at that.
  • 09-09-2013, 07:56 PM
    MrLang
    I have returned post shed. I have to say I am quite skeptical still. I believe they are both pewter bees and the pastel gene in one is much nicer than the other. I did however get 2 opinions this weekend from NERD employees that thought they were both sterlings and one was nicer than the other... Any updated opinions post shed?

    Together
    http://imageshack.us/a/img560/7479/l1tj.jpg

    Sterling??
    http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2480/7vub.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img40/2084/mz7o.JPG

    Pewter??
    http://imageshack.us/a/img824/1328/f8qt.jpg


    Or both pewter or both sterling?

    Good news is the lighter one is a male and I'm keeping it regardless! I also got the 'probable male' from clutch 1 re-sexed and confirmed female. This means my season was 1.10 where the male was this light multi-gene and there were also no normals!
  • 09-09-2013, 09:18 PM
    Mike41793
    Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    With such a lucky first season i'd be worried i'd get all normals next year lol. My first clutch wasn't too hot, hoping next years are better.

    The one certainly seems a lot nicer, if they are both just pewters. Congrats either way!
  • 09-10-2013, 12:22 AM
    JMinILM
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Great clutch. Congrats!
  • 09-10-2013, 04:25 AM
    Ben.L
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    If you asked me whether it was carrying 1 pastel gene or 2, I'd say 2, so I'd say sterling for sure! Stunning clutch! :gj:
  • 09-10-2013, 04:38 AM
    Neal
    Still very nice hits, I'm liking that cinny too.
  • 09-10-2013, 08:03 AM
    MrLang
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Still very nice hits, I'm liking that cinny too.

    Thanks! Here's the rest of the clutch:

    Not the best color but very granite-y:

    http://imageshack.us/a/img11/6942/ra1f.jpg

    Bee:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img826/9342/rdcx.jpg

    Cinny:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img94/6299/p0l3.jpg
  • 09-11-2013, 10:34 AM
    jkobylka
    Both look pewter to me. Grats!
  • 09-11-2013, 10:47 AM
    thinkbig317
    Beautiful babies! CONGRATS!
  • 06-29-2015, 11:19 AM
    MrLang
    Let's raise this thread from the grave. I ended up keeping both of those hatchlings. The darker one was a female who is due to lay any day now. The lighter one is a male who proved out to be a pewter bee granite. The granite lightened it up and made the pattern a bit busier which made it look like a sterling but he has since proven out to be pewter bee granite, not sterling bee.

    Here's his baby that just hatched yesterday - this one IS a sterling bee. Came out nice and fat at 74g! I thought I'd update and share here to show how a full generation gets raised up and bred and also to compare the sterling bee to the pewters at hatchling size from the same lines :)

    http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psahkikwxc.jpg

    http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psh6am37lv.jpg

    http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psunzqzig2.jpg

    Male or female, you can bet this one is getting held back!! I think this also highlights how you can raise your own snakes to improve the quality of your collection without going on shopping sprees.
  • 06-29-2015, 11:59 AM
    Asherah
    Aw. I love this update! Glad you finally got one!
  • 06-29-2015, 03:41 PM
    RIDE
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Very cool!!! Super congrats!!!!
  • 06-29-2015, 06:58 PM
    ARBallMorphs
    very cool you got your Sterling Bee!

    even more cool that you "made" it yourself!!!
  • 06-29-2015, 07:21 PM
    KitaCat
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Super cool! Thanks for the update and for sharing these gorgeous snakes.

    And congrats!!
  • 06-30-2015, 01:05 AM
    Solarsoldier001
    Re: Clutch 2 hatching - Did I hit the Sterling Bee?!
    Super cool. And super amazing. I'm glad I got to see the daddy


    Sent from iPhone 6 using tapatalk :)
  • 06-30-2015, 09:58 AM
    MrLang
    I hatched a super pewter in this clutch that was years in the making as well. Unfortunately it died in the egg in late development due to pretty bad spinal kinking. I felt a lot better when I saw this one come out!!
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